Posted on Oct 31, 2023
Pregnancy Criminalization in the US Is an “Avoidable Human Rights Crisis”
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Pregnancy Criminalization...
Nice phrase that has no meaning. Nobody is going to jail for getting pregnant. Nobody is getting fined for having sex.
Just another new term that the left has come up with to do away with personal responsibility.
Another one is Legal Reproductive Justice Group. WTF is that even about? That is an abortion activist group that wants to make taxpayers fund abortions.
Here's the deal. You do the deed, you deal with the consequences. You have an "oops", then take care of it yourself. I'm not anti-abortion, but I am pro-take care of your own sh#t. There are many places that offer abortion. You might have to travel to get to them, but that isn't the issue of anyone but the couple that did the deed.
You want to build a body count, you know the risks. Take responsibility for your inability to keep you gender specific tools in your pants. Contraceptives work and are generally really cheap or free. Get off your ass and pick them up if you want to partake in the beast with 2 backs.
Nice phrase that has no meaning. Nobody is going to jail for getting pregnant. Nobody is getting fined for having sex.
Just another new term that the left has come up with to do away with personal responsibility.
Another one is Legal Reproductive Justice Group. WTF is that even about? That is an abortion activist group that wants to make taxpayers fund abortions.
Here's the deal. You do the deed, you deal with the consequences. You have an "oops", then take care of it yourself. I'm not anti-abortion, but I am pro-take care of your own sh#t. There are many places that offer abortion. You might have to travel to get to them, but that isn't the issue of anyone but the couple that did the deed.
You want to build a body count, you know the risks. Take responsibility for your inability to keep you gender specific tools in your pants. Contraceptives work and are generally really cheap or free. Get off your ass and pick them up if you want to partake in the beast with 2 backs.
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"our punitive legal systems should have no role in people’s health care "
Therein lies the rub.
Therein lies the rub.
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61 people in 21 years across the entire US. That is less than 3 people per year. And the charges listed are definitely crimes, and often should be. Things like improper disposal of fetal remains - that is a biohazard that poses a risk to public health. Yes, that should be charged. The "self-managed abortion" is not the problem, the public health risk *is.*
And, once again, we have an inaccurate headline. Pregnancy has *not* been criminalized. Not a single person in this story has been prosecuted for being pregnant. Nor is this a "human rights crisis."
Three people per year in a country of 300+ million? No matter how heinously those people are treated (and criminal prosecution for actual crimes is certainly not very heinous) 1 out of every 100 million is not a "crisis." There are 4500 pediatric malpractice deaths - with infants being most at risk - every year. (Source: https://www.bmj.com/content/328/7454/1458.3 ). By my math 4500 is a little bit more than 3. You want to look to an avoidable crisis? How about we start there.
And, once again, we have an inaccurate headline. Pregnancy has *not* been criminalized. Not a single person in this story has been prosecuted for being pregnant. Nor is this a "human rights crisis."
Three people per year in a country of 300+ million? No matter how heinously those people are treated (and criminal prosecution for actual crimes is certainly not very heinous) 1 out of every 100 million is not a "crisis." There are 4500 pediatric malpractice deaths - with infants being most at risk - every year. (Source: https://www.bmj.com/content/328/7454/1458.3 ). By my math 4500 is a little bit more than 3. You want to look to an avoidable crisis? How about we start there.
Study finds US paediatric medical errors kill 4500 children a year
Medical errors in hospital are responsible for the deaths of nearly 4500 children in the United States every year, says a study examining the effect of lapses in patient safety on children in hospitals throughout the nation ( Pediatrics 2004;113:1741-6). “The bottom line is that none of these events should have happened,” said Dr Marlene R Miller, the study's lead author and director of quality and safety initiatives at the Johns Hopkins...
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SFC Casey O'Mally
MSG Stan Hutchison Never denied the accuracy of that statement. But 3 people a year is not a "crisis." And when the majority of those are valid prosecutions, it is DEFINITELY not a crisis.
Are there folks wrongfully prosecuted? Sure. And each time it happens - whether it is for ending a pregnancy or for running from the cops with no actual crime - it is tragic.
But if we want to make something into a huge deal worthy of public "human rights" campaigns, this falls short.
Are there folks wrongfully prosecuted? Sure. And each time it happens - whether it is for ending a pregnancy or for running from the cops with no actual crime - it is tragic.
But if we want to make something into a huge deal worthy of public "human rights" campaigns, this falls short.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
SFC Casey O'Mally - 1. I did not agree with the use of the word "crisis."
However, I do believe even though small in overall numbers, it should be brought to the public's attention.
However, I do believe even though small in overall numbers, it should be brought to the public's attention.
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