Posted on Nov 1, 2023
Trump tells judge in fraud case to leave his children alone
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Criminals one and all
Trump tells judge in fraud case to leave his children alone
Posted from thehill.com
New York City
Donald Trump
Judge
Children
Fraud
Posted 6 mo ago
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SPC Carl Davis
"The lawsuit alleges years of financial misconduct by the former president and his two eldest sons, who are both executive vice presidents of the Trump Organisation.
The case could deal a major blow to the family’s business empire, and Mr Trump’s reputation, as he campaigns to retake the White House in 2024.
The former president reacted with fury after three of his adult children were called to testify in the case, and accused Arthur Engoron - the judge overseeing it - of being a “partisan political hack”.
“Engoron is crazy, totally unhinged, and dangerous,” he wrote in a string of statements on his Truth Social platform on Wednesday.
“Leave my children alone, Engoron. You are a disgrace to the legal profession!”"...
"The lawsuit alleges years of financial misconduct by the former president and his two eldest sons, who are both executive vice presidents of the Trump Organisation.
The case could deal a major blow to the family’s business empire, and Mr Trump’s reputation, as he campaigns to retake the White House in 2024.
The former president reacted with fury after three of his adult children were called to testify in the case, and accused Arthur Engoron - the judge overseeing it - of being a “partisan political hack”.
“Engoron is crazy, totally unhinged, and dangerous,” he wrote in a string of statements on his Truth Social platform on Wednesday.
“Leave my children alone, Engoron. You are a disgrace to the legal profession!”"...
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SFC Casey O'Mally
MSG Stan Hutchison I have a ton of faith in the system - when it is allowed to operate free of corruption, influence, and malfeasance.
Unfortunately, I also have too much wisdom borne of both direct and observational experience to believe the system routinely operates in such a manner. And definitely not in this situation.
Any juror who can honestly say the know nothing about the case is too ignorant to be a worthy juror. And I understand we stand human nature and human failure. Very VERY few people can truly set aside their pre-conceived notions and biases. They will view testimony through their partisan lens. On top of that, no matter how much we state there is a presumption of innocence, jurors actually operate with a presumption of guilt. They are more inclined to believe prosecutors than they are defense. After all, we are told time and time again that prosecutors don't bring cases unless the person is guilty. Every person appearing for trial has already been indicted - a jury has ALREADY found that they have likely committed a crime.
And the more serious the crime, the more likely juries are to convict. ( https://today.duke.edu/2018/10/severity-crime-increases-jury%E2%80%99s-belief-guilt ) And all of the cases involve very serious crimes, indeed.
There will be no such thing as a fair trial in front of an unbiased jury. It is simply impossible.
Unfortunately, I also have too much wisdom borne of both direct and observational experience to believe the system routinely operates in such a manner. And definitely not in this situation.
Any juror who can honestly say the know nothing about the case is too ignorant to be a worthy juror. And I understand we stand human nature and human failure. Very VERY few people can truly set aside their pre-conceived notions and biases. They will view testimony through their partisan lens. On top of that, no matter how much we state there is a presumption of innocence, jurors actually operate with a presumption of guilt. They are more inclined to believe prosecutors than they are defense. After all, we are told time and time again that prosecutors don't bring cases unless the person is guilty. Every person appearing for trial has already been indicted - a jury has ALREADY found that they have likely committed a crime.
And the more serious the crime, the more likely juries are to convict. ( https://today.duke.edu/2018/10/severity-crime-increases-jury%E2%80%99s-belief-guilt ) And all of the cases involve very serious crimes, indeed.
There will be no such thing as a fair trial in front of an unbiased jury. It is simply impossible.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
SFC Casey O'Mally - So I must ask, what, in your opinion, can we, or should we do?
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MSG Stan Hutchison
SFC Casey O'Mally - I have to once again repeat a favorate line:
Yes, we have a terrible system of government (including judicial).
But it beats the hell out of whatever is in second place.
Yes, we have a terrible system of government (including judicial).
But it beats the hell out of whatever is in second place.
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