Posted on Jul 11, 2016
A conversation on the ethics of Dallas police's bomb robot
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A robot a gun, both are the same, and this conversations is silly, because either end in death of an armed shooter that has killed.
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CPT Pedro Meza
MCPO Roger Collins - In an active shooting situation any law enforcement or person that has the right to self defend can use what ever is need to stop an active shooter; active shooters need to be stopped by all means necessary.
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MCPO Roger Collins
Of course that is true. But that wasn't the situation. A better equivalent would be a sniper situation, can a sniper fire with out specific guidance, military or law enforcement ?
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CPT Pedro Meza
MCPO Roger Collins - Depending on the police department once a police sniper is called to report in he/her has the green light to take action based on his line of sight on the mark, but most snipers are in communication with the superior that called them. Let just say that CYA is done.
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MCPO Roger Collins
CPT Pedro Meza - That was a rhetorical question. Point being some above green lights the target, unless the military or LEO is in imminent danger.
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Q: What was the one thing precluding the murderer of Officers Ahrens, Krol, Smith, Thompson and Zamarripa from surrendering?
A: Himself.
Q: Could LE have rushed him and taken him?
A: Probably but with more needless casualties.
The murderer of Officers Ahrens, Krol, Smith, Thompson and Zamarripa opted for his outcome. Fuck him and may he rot.
A: Himself.
Q: Could LE have rushed him and taken him?
A: Probably but with more needless casualties.
The murderer of Officers Ahrens, Krol, Smith, Thompson and Zamarripa opted for his outcome. Fuck him and may he rot.
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TSgt (Join to see) Whether the shooter was taken out by a rifle/pistol shot, a bomb taken in by a robot, or by any other means does not bother me in the least. As long as reasonable care has been taken to ensure, to the extent possible, that innocent lives are not impacted, I don't really care how they take out someone who has killed and will continue to do so if not neutralized. Nuke him, shoot him with a flame thrower, unleash lions on him, or whatever... Just take him out and move on. There will always be bleeding heart liberals who think we should simply have sent in a box of kittens or something to make him see the errors of his ways and surrender.
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COL Jean (John) F. B. - if LE can use a drone or robot to kill someone. How is it ludicrous for LE to use robots/drones for non-lethal means or surveillance. There are no laws permitting it to my knowledge
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COL Jean (John) F. B.
TSgt (Join to see) - Drones and robots are being used for surveillance now, just as are millions of surveillance cameras. The issue is when/if they are used in areas where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy. That would require the police to obtain the same authorization they do now for any other means of surveillance.
I still fail to see the difference in sending a bomb-laden robot to kill a shooter than launching a bullet at him. The deadly force justification is all that is needed.
I still fail to see the difference in sending a bomb-laden robot to kill a shooter than launching a bullet at him. The deadly force justification is all that is needed.
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SN Greg Wright
COL Jean (John) F. B. - From a Colonel that spent his career as a cop and a leader of cops? This conversation is over. I'd give you all my upvotes if I could.
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