Posted on Jun 20, 2017
Authorities release police dashcam video of Philando Castile killing
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Ever think to follow an officers command and sort it out later? Not to mention the history of both adult occupants and behavior.
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MAJ James Woods - IF you are told by a cop to stop reaching for something you should stop reaching. I am also happy that the woman and the child were fine. What I also find sad is that the woman did nothing to help the man that was shot she got on her phone and put it on Facebook.
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MAJ James Woods
SSG (Join to see) - Actually grabbing her phone and documenting her man being shot 7 times was her hoping it be used to get justice for him just before they arrested her too. Especially since it's going to be her word against two cops. Again, he could've been reaching for his wallet where his drivers license. This cop got nervous the moment a Black man told him he was legally armed and assumed he was going to be a threat to him. Poor training since the cop never saw signs of a gun. It's negligence and should have been involuntary manslaughter.
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SSG (Join to see) - First you say he shouldn't reach because the cop thought he was going for his firearm and then at the same time say "What I also find sad is that the woman did nothing to help the man that was shot she got on her phone and put it on Facebook." WTF exactly was she supposed to do? Move and get shot? Officer Nervous Nelly just about shit his pants so no she did nothing wrong. Maybe that piece of sit should've holstered his weapon and rendered aid. Oh...he was just following his training.
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SSgt Robert Jorgensen
And again I'll say it again - IF YOU DO AS AS OFFICER SAYS, YOU DON'T GET SHOT. MOVE AROUND AND MAKE EVERYONE TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR DOING AFTER TELLING THE OFFICER YOU HAVE A GUN YOU RISK GETTING SHOT!
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I keep seeing comments suggesting hands on wheels at all times, follow all commands, don't ask questions, don't make the police officers nervous. I didn't realize we lived in a police state where I should feel the need to tread lightly with every police encounter. The lack of accountability by leaders in law enforcement; the lack of response by NRA leaders; and the fact the jury felt the officer's life was threatened though officer never saw a gun is most disturbing.
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Exactly sir. I always have my insurance and license ready by the time the cop walks over to my car but I'm not putting my hands on the steering wheel or going out of my way to keep him from being nervous. If pulling a car over makes you that nervous find another job. It ain't for everybody.
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MAJ James Woods
GySgt John Olson - That's disappointing but then again 60 years ago one couldn't talk back or question a police officer without retribution. Neither should be tolerated these days.
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A lot of this case makes more sense thanks to the video. The officer asks for the basic three - license, registration, and insurance. From the shape of the paperwork, Castile handed over registration and insurance.
My driver's license is in my wallet in my right hip pocket (that might make an interesting insta-poll question). I'm betting his was, too - prompting the alert that he was armed, and the "I'm not reaching for the gun" statement.
I don't understand why there wasn't a conviction, either; this looks like the officer panicked.
My driver's license is in my wallet in my right hip pocket (that might make an interesting insta-poll question). I'm betting his was, too - prompting the alert that he was armed, and the "I'm not reaching for the gun" statement.
I don't understand why there wasn't a conviction, either; this looks like the officer panicked.
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I think your analysis is pretty much spot on. On those few instances when I have been pulled over, by the time the LEO reached my driver's side window, it was down and I had all three pieces of documentation (license, registration, insurance card) on the dashboard and my hands on the steering wheel. Let there be no confusion ... and I'm a WASP. The reason he wasn't convicted IMV is that panic isn't a crime. It is pretty clear from the video that the LEO was afraid for his life and went off the deep end. That he panicked and misjudged the situation is tragic and heartbreaking ... but not a criminal offense. It IS a firing offense ... and I am glad he was removed from the force. I also accept the jury finding.
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