Posted on Jul 11, 2019
Billie Jean King adds her voice to the USWNT’s equal pay fight
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Well lets throw some numbers out there and see what sticks, Last year the men's world cup brought in 6 billion dollars and the teams got 7% of that, this year the estimate for the total revenue for the women's wold cup is 160 million and the women get 20% of that. So the women actually get a greater cut but the economics say you just don't bring in enough money. Plus the men's world cup had over 120 teams only 24 women's teams played in this world cup. The economics just don't work out, fair or not. The U.S. actually out spends most nations combined on our Women's team.
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SCPO Jason McLaughlin - No there was not, look it up 128 teams play in various place through the globe and once they get them down to 32 they play at on chosen site for the main event, Not that hard to google. Did not say that was the cost, that was reported as the revenue made as profits thru various sites and TV money. Just plain economics, the mens team on a world scale dwarfs womens soccer. Now in the U.S. I would say because of their success Women's soccer at this point in time is bigger than the mens. Never said the U.S. men qualified either, you seem to like to make your point with innuendo and half truths. Not saying it is fair either. I would also guess that in the next 10 years other countries will catch up to our women's team as it stands we put the best women's athletes on the field and other countries are just starting to respond in kind. The men for the U.S. are not putting our best athletes on the field over all because our best athletes are playing other sports, so until then I doubt we will ever compete year in and year out in men's soccer.
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Okay here are numbers from FIFA, estimated 2019 women's revenue (clear money) 30 mil, champs get 4 mil, 2018 men total cleared money is 400 mil, champs took 38 mil, this is gate money, FIFA keeps all the TV etc after bills etc. Now FIFA runs the world cup and decides who gets what, as far as comparing the U.S. men to the women, the women actually bring in more money gate wise with 50.8 compared to 49.9 mil for the men, but as usual our men did not make the actual world cup so their total revenue was just for match play. Fair or not, not my fight, but the U.S. doesn't control FIFA money or the pay out. Plus the current contract for both men and women were collectively bargained for not sure how long those contracts last???? It does not that the men have their bonuses start much earlier in the tournament process.
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SSG Robert Webster I did read and it makes arguments for and against your and my opinions. Biased source? Yeah we are done here.
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SCPO Jason McLaughlin
SSG Robert Webster - Again, have you read the lawsuit? The women are not suing FIFA. They are suing the USSF. The World Cup has nothing to do with it. It is not hard to comprehend.
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SSG Robert Webster
1SG (Join to see) Obviously you did not read the whole article or the related PolitiFact articles, or you apparently do not understand them/
SCPO Jason McLaughlin - Have you read the audited financial statements? You could also read the tax returns, but the audited financials are a bit easier to read and understand.
As for who they are suing, it is the USSF that they can sue and not Fifa since they are 'employees' of USSF and not Fifa. And yes they are suing over Fifa money.
Here is a link to all of them for 2006-2018:
https://www.ussoccer.com/governance/financial-information
The class action lawsuit's contention of:
The women are paid less than the men despite performing similar job duties for the same employer and outperforming the men — at times earning more profit for the federation, playing more games, winning more games, winning more championships and garnering higher television ratings. To support that claim, the lawsuit cites the women's (then) three World Cup titles, four Olympic gold medals, No. 1 rank in the world for 10 of the 11 last years and the 2015 World Cup title game being the most-watched soccer game in American TV history at the time.
NOTE what the information that they are using to support their claim, then look at the financials and or the tax returns.
SCPO Jason McLaughlin - Have you read the audited financial statements? You could also read the tax returns, but the audited financials are a bit easier to read and understand.
As for who they are suing, it is the USSF that they can sue and not Fifa since they are 'employees' of USSF and not Fifa. And yes they are suing over Fifa money.
Here is a link to all of them for 2006-2018:
https://www.ussoccer.com/governance/financial-information
The class action lawsuit's contention of:
The women are paid less than the men despite performing similar job duties for the same employer and outperforming the men — at times earning more profit for the federation, playing more games, winning more games, winning more championships and garnering higher television ratings. To support that claim, the lawsuit cites the women's (then) three World Cup titles, four Olympic gold medals, No. 1 rank in the world for 10 of the 11 last years and the 2015 World Cup title game being the most-watched soccer game in American TV history at the time.
NOTE what the information that they are using to support their claim, then look at the financials and or the tax returns.
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"There's no denying the popularity of the U.S. women's team. Sunday's final against the Netherlands attracted over 14 million TV viewers, according to Nielsen ratings, making it one of the highest- rated soccer telecasts in the history of the sport in the United States. Viewership for the match, which kicked off at 8 a.m. on the West Coast, peaked at 19.6 million viewers. Last year's men's final between France and Croatia averaged 11.4 million viewers."
What a crock - That must have been US viewers only, these numbers are not even close to being correct for total viewership.
"Fifa says more than 3.5 billion people viewed some of the 2018 World Cup, with 1.12 billion watching at least one minute of France beating Croatia 4-2 in the final."
11.4 million versus 1.12 billion that by itself is a monstrous difference just for the men's final game alone. Interesting enough the only information available about viewership for this years women's final is the US total and not World-Wide total. Interesting that toward the end of a number of articles it gives the viewership totals for the Netherlands where 88% of the population watched vs. what percentage of our (US) population watched (a number not given in most if not all of the reports)?
What a crock - That must have been US viewers only, these numbers are not even close to being correct for total viewership.
"Fifa says more than 3.5 billion people viewed some of the 2018 World Cup, with 1.12 billion watching at least one minute of France beating Croatia 4-2 in the final."
11.4 million versus 1.12 billion that by itself is a monstrous difference just for the men's final game alone. Interesting enough the only information available about viewership for this years women's final is the US total and not World-Wide total. Interesting that toward the end of a number of articles it gives the viewership totals for the Netherlands where 88% of the population watched vs. what percentage of our (US) population watched (a number not given in most if not all of the reports)?
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