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LTC John Shaw
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Many times the success of the franchise is dependent on the owner being the primary staff manager who works 60-80 hours a week.
You effectively purchased a minimum wage job that you can't leave without going under.
It has been a primary reason to avoid any franchise ownership.
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SPC Erich Guenther
SPC Erich Guenther
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Agree and one of the lessons learned and why I dumped it. However it was distressed for that reason, the owner before me was putting in that amount of time and did not have time to market the business, expand to catering (60% of any Sub Shops business is catering vs walk-ins and he had zero catering). Expand to Internet Ordering and delivery (Also not existant). So my plan was to expand catering and bring in more money. We had some success there, one catering engagement was worth almost a whole day's operation of the restaurant in revenue. Attempted Internet Ordering but the franchise point of sale system would not accept it and the Franchise HQ was not even interested in fixing that...........said their philosophy was I should market and bring people into the location (yeah right). I was naive in two areas: #1 Amount of effort it would take to land new business in catering (slow slog upwards in sales and lots of flyers and knocking on doors). #2 Internet Ordering and Delivery which I thought I could pull off myself but found you needed significant support from Franchise HQ because they supported the IT portion of the point of sale terminal and without their help it was going nowhere fast. I would say #3 was naivete at the commercial mall lease. Stupidly I thought it would be like an apartment lease. Noway, they wanted a portion of my gross sales, profits and to have veto power over hours of operation (or they would fine me). Additionally they wanted other financial extractions I won't get into here as it is confidential. So I learned from my naivete, will be better positioned with a future business startup.
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LTC John Shaw
LTC John Shaw
8 y
Blessings on you next efforts. Thank you for sharing your wisdom with the RP forum.
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Cpl Mark A. Morris
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SPC,
I have been growing a small business for the last two years and three months. I keep a full time job to pay for everything and my overhead is about $500.00 a month.
For me Medicare provider-ship (Oct. 12th) was key. As I now apply to be in network of large insurance companies, my LLC will be exposed to tens of thousands of patients. It's like marketing in a way.
But, I hope most of all to be accepted by Triwest veteran choice program.
Anyway, I'm excited and wanted to share my never giving up story. I can't wait to give up my full time job.
Best of luck to you in the future.
M. Morris RVT
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SPC Erich Guenther
SPC Erich Guenther
8 y
Thats good to know and congrats to you, one thing I did not like with my startup was attempting it just on savings alone and no other income. It's a little less pressure when your not counting down towards zero and have an additional side income, in my view. I also because of my financing arrangement had to structure it by using a C Corp and what a pain in the azz that was. LLC is definitely a better and more flexible structure for a small business. Still if I had to live life over again, I would probably do the same thing over just for the experience alone. In my case financially it is going to be a wash and not impact my retirement at all because having the small business attempt on my resume has actually benefitted me financially, believe it or not, with prospective employers and HR. They view it very positively regardless of the fact it was so short term. That was an unexpected positive from the whole experience.
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Cpl Mark A. Morris
Cpl Mark A. Morris
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SPC Erich Guenther - I'm having brunch after performing an exam at the jail. I'm going to write this meal off on taxes. Because, we discussed business.
M. Morris RVT
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CWO3 Us Marine
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Seems the "franchise cost" price of admission keeps most of the little guys out of a chain, one pays a premium for brand recognition and some can be close to a million bucks, not including infrastructure, like the McDonalds golden arches etc, they can get ridiculously high $$$, I've sometimes thought the small mom n pop niche is the way to go, at least if it fails despite all the hard work you can walk away without being in debt up to your ears, off topic but who doesn't love a good cheese steak? best I had was in Chiefs Club of the old Philadelphia Navy Yard, next best was from a small place called Connie's in Naperville, IL but it was more of an Italian beef sandwich, used to be small sandwich shop near main gate early 80's at MCB Quantico, VA called Happy Pickle and their steak n cheese was awesome also
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