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LT Brad McInnis
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Sad. Most people don't realize how dangerous it is at sea. Unfortunately, these 33 paid the ultimate price. What strikes me is the errors with storm reporting to the ship (NHS/BVM). I can sit at home and play around with a multitude of sites and reports, and it is surprising that they don't have the ability. The recommendation that I like is the CCTV cameras in voids and other spaces. Flooding and free surface effect are a lot more dangerous than people realize. RIP sailors....
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SN Greg Wright
SN Greg Wright
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I posted a lot about this back when it was happening and got a lot of responses like 'that could never happen to a Navy ship'. So you're right, people vastly underestimate the dangers of going to sea. My standard response was, 'If a carrier lost propulsion and went broadside to the waves in a hurricane like the El Faro did, that carrier would have sunk as well. Mother nature is a bitch and we're just ants playing with her.' Annnnd then there's the summer of 2017...
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LT Brad McInnis
LT Brad McInnis
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SN Greg Wright - Loss of propulsion is/was my greatest fear at sea. Of course, my very first underway as CHENG, we go completely dark right off buoy 1SD in San Diego. No idea why it happened. Told the CO to drop the hook (right in the channel)... Thought for sure I was going to be fired. Turns our a civilian contractor left a 9/16" wrench in a switchboard. When we hit the first swell, it crossed bars and blew everything out.....
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SN Greg Wright
SN Greg Wright
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LT Brad McInnis - Yeah, it's a simple physics problem. a 30' wave (60' with the trough) is MILLIONS of tons of water vs even, say, a carrier's 100k tons? Yeah. The carrier loses. I was on a VLCC (300k dwt) in the Bering Sea during a 100 year storm, and we were being tossed like a twig. Rolled so hard that there was a 1, 2-second hang on each side (seemed like a minute!) and I found myself chanting 'come back baby, come back....' Every person on that ship was up and if not on the bridge, down in engineering to ensure we didn't lose propulsion.
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LT Brad McInnis
LT Brad McInnis
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I don't know if you have the "Oh shit" cables running along the overhead on the bridges. 1st time I saw them, I was like that's crazy, what are we little kids...Of course, when I really needed them, they worked great. Used to hang from them, with my feet off the deck, and swing like a pendulum.
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PO3 Donald Murphy
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"Trading With The Enemy" by Charles Higham. FDR was shocked to find that American big business/industry was **STILL** doing business with Germany, Italy and Japan on December 31st, 1941.

"Oh okay Don...yawn...another conspiracy book..."

Nope. No conspiracy. No law breaking. Everything done out in the open and everything above board. "So why read the book?" To show you how the dollar trumps loss of life.
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LTC Stephen F.
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Thanks SN Greg Wright for sharing the news that U.S. Coast Guard today October 1, 2017 has released the S.S. El Faro Marine Board of Investigation report.
1. “The most important thing to remember is that 33 people lost their lives in this tragedy. If adopted, we believe the safety recommendations in our report will improve safety of life at sea” said Capt. Jason Neubauer, chairman, El Faro Marine Board of Investigation, U.S. Coast Guard.
2. Cause of the accident will be revealed in December 2017
3. The report "proposes a total of 31 safety recommendations and four administrative recommendations for future actions to the Commandant of the Coast Guard."

"The U.S. Coast Guard today has released the S.S. El Faro Marine Board of Investigation report, which includes a detailed account of the event along with the MBI’s conclusions on contributing factors and recommendations.
The 199-page report identifies causal factors of the loss of the S.S. El Faro and 33 crew members on October 1, 2015, which ranks as one of the worst maritime disasters in American history. The 790-foot vessel set sail from Jacksonville, Florida, on a voyage to San Juan, Puerto Rico, on Sept. 29, 2015, and sank about a day and a half later off the Bahamas near the eye of Hurricane Joaquin.
The report proposes a total of 31 safety recommendations and four administrative recommendations for future actions to the Commandant of the Coast Guard. Of note, the MBI recommends that the Coast Guard initiate a civil penalty against El Faro’s operator, TOTE Services, but the MBI does not recommend any suspension or revocation action against any credentialed mariner or criminal prosecution against any person or entity. The MBI also does not recommend any administrative or punitive action against any Coast Guard personnel.
“The most important thing to remember is that 33 people lost their lives in this tragedy. If adopted, we believe the safety recommendations in our report will improve safety of life at sea” said Capt. Jason Neubauer, chairman, El Faro Marine Board of Investigation, U.S. Coast Guard.
Coast Guard standard procedure and 46 USC 63 requires this type of report to be done for all marine casualties under Coast Guard authority.
The investigation was conducted by the U.S. Coast Guard with the full cooperation of the National Transportation Safety Board, which is conducting its own investigation into the accident. NTSB investigators will meet in December to determine probable cause and vote on safety recommendations identified their investigation.
The Coast Guard Marine Board Investigation Report can be accessed along with other investigation documents at the following link http://www.news.uscg.mil/News-by-Region/Headquarters/El-Faro-Marine-Board-of-Investigation/."
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