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I don't see the big deal. There are plenty of people doing God knows what during the anthem. He is not being violent or anything simply stating his opinion. Is he supposed to just sit back and do nothing like athletes and superstars have done for years. They hated Ali and when he died all of a sudden he was the GOAT. No different they both are trying to bring attention a problem. He didn't ask for the attention and at the end of the day you can't please everyone. He also said that he supported veterans and it was nothing against them/ us.
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It's crazy when your kids can't be kids because you're scared of someone discriminating or at worst killing them because some kind of way it will be justified. It's truly sad. But when people take a stand they're morons and other things.
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SGT Eric Caldwell - What wats are those? There have been so many ways people have tried to bring light to issues and nothing happens. They justify issues with irrelevance of other things
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SGT Eric Caldwell - Are you calling me a dumbass?
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SFC Bobby Thompson
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I think that I will not support him not standing for that National Anthem. Its like we keep slipping with not holding any tradition in the United States. First we want to elect presidents with no military service and one that actually hate the military. Then we allow schools to eliminate saying the pledge of elegance, we want to get rid of god in every thing. There are a lot of other things that America has let slip. I think we are trying to get rid of GOD and Religion in America. No matter what you believe in some people need religion to make them peaceful and give them hope.
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Love him or hate him for his actions, disrespectful as it may have been to do it in this way... we couldn't call it freedom if he didn't have the right to do so. At the end of the day, we fight for our citizens to have these rights to stand up for what they believe in. (or in this case sit down)
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SFC Bobby Thompson
SFC Bobby Thompson
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I think him not observing the National Anthem is setting another bad example for kids. Him not standing for the National Anthem is not going to create any equality in America.
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SFC Bobby Thompson I agree Sir, I was just stating that if we took away his right to do so it would be an infringement on his freedom, which is included in the rights that we fight for as military members.
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MAJ Don Bigger
MAJ Don Bigger
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What ‘right’ are you speaking of? He has as much ‘right’ to kneel while in the uniform of his employer as you do. You should kneel, in uniform, on base, the next time the National Anthem is played. Let me know how far that ‘right’ gets you.

Now, if someone in the stands wants to sit, or talk, or whatever during the National Anthem, have at it. I won’t necessarily like it, but yeah, they have that right—which they are exercising as a private citizen.

However—anytime we are in the employ of another, our ‘rights’ are constrained. By contract, so are his. The 49ers/NFL may choose not to take any actions against him, but don’t think for a minute his ‘rights’ are unfettered.
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COL Jean (John) F. B.
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SSG Trust Palmer Will be interesting to see who he donates money to (if he does)... I predict it will be to some racist organization, like Black Lives Matter, which, although it may have started out for a good purpose, has been taken over by radical racists who have waged a war on cops and white people.

If he really wanted to do good, he would donate money to groups that are trying to do something about black families with absent fathers, the 70% single mother birth rates in blacks (after the murder, through abortion, of millions more black babies), the high unemployment rate and low high school graduation rates among blacks, high welfare rates, etc., etc. The problem is that the liberal agenda of the current Administration has done nothing to address these issues and want to keep blacks on the "Democrat plantation" and have them dependent on the government, so they will continue to vote to keep them in office.

Like I said... we'll see.
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SSG Trust Palmer
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SSG Warren Swan
SSG Warren Swan
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I'm enjoying the dialogue here but one thing needs to stop. The ONLY LEO org that will without fail and is guaranteed within the best of their abilities to protect and serve is the MP Corps. It's on out crest, and reinforced in many different ways in training. SCOTUS has already said that the civilian version of "Protect and Serve" is not real. So a cop really has no responsibility to protect you as the person vs the law and you being a bystander of it. Do a DUI, he will enforce it. Making you do the breathalyzer is a side effect of administering the law itself. All cops aren't this way, but the fact that this is on the books unchallenged sets a dangerous president should a LEO wake up and say "Fuck them". He's legally correct. But should they infringe on the LAW, now he has to take action.
So who or what is being protected? You or the law?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html?_r=0
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SSG Warren Swan
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COL Jean (John) F. B. - BLM is corrupted by it's success. I grant that much, but to say it's a "racist" org at this point is extremely subjective. Folks are used to the media showing BLM as a black grass roots racially charged org against cops, but when you see many of the actual protests and the cameras are not directly focused on a black or minority person, you will see LOADS of Whites. It was funny when there was a group from BLM scattered across a highway, but damn near all of them were white so they camera stayed on the few blacks to justify that the blacks had done this alone. I think that was in St. Loius. So it would seem again that BLM has expanded to include anyone who feels there is an injustice in America....much like occupy Wall Street. So an org that includes multiple races cannot be "racist" being Cops Lives Matter has the same thing. If one of these is "racist" the other is also. Are we in a position to pick and choose objectively or just run with who has a badge and who doesn't? Sir while this has been directed to you, it's more than you. It's a shared opinion by many that needs to be adjusted.
Sir unlike cop unions and orgs, NO one else has the sheer level of support through media, courts, and a populace who feels it's "wrong" to convict a cop...even when the evidence is clear and had this been a regular person, they'd get life or death like it was a free twinkie. We gave PD's MRAPS and uparmored hummers and what happened? Using them in situations where a squad car would be more than enough? Instead of looking like the populace, they look like the military. Last time that happened, Swastikas were everywhere. I want to look at a cop in a good light, and for the most part, I do. I want them to see me that way. Many do, many DO NOT, and I've heard that from cops directly. Let a cop (more than one actually) tell you they won't wrestle with you, they'd kill you. How would you feel? Just being who you are, your size, and they have a badge and can tell you to your face they would help you meet God. Glad these were my buddies, but if they think it.......
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COL Jean (John) F. B.
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SSG Warren Swan - Once again, you make some very good points, however, you fail to acknowledge some of the facts. BLM has some good folks with good motives, however, they have been mostly taken over by racist troublemakers and they engage in unlawful activity. Have you not seen the videos where BLM organizers have told non-blacks they were not welcome at their rallies/activities?

As far as the militarization of cops is concerned, the police has to be able to counter the criminal threat. If the bad guys have military weapons, bombs, etc., shouldn't the police? And, by the way, a "show of force" is also an effective police tactic. The current situation in our cities require the police to be militarized, when necessary, to counter the threat. I have absolutely no problem with it. To compare it with the Nazis is way off base... The Nazis used military force against a peaceful population. That is certainly not the case in the USA. Here, the police are using necessary force against criminals.

I'll say it again, a person (or a group of people) who fails to follow the law/lawful instructions of the police or assault the police are not victims, except for being victims of their own stupidity.
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