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LTC Jason Mackay
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Col Joseph Lenertz speaking from the perspective of one of the little specks on the ground, we need CAS that carries a lethal variety of munitions that can loiter on station for significant periods of time. We would prefer it to be survivable for the air crew so they can get in close and get after it. We won't always have a cooperative enemy, a point on which I think we agree. Fighting a near peer will put us against deliberate arrays of multiple overlapping types of Air Defense and Counter air capabilities. We need these air frames to also be able to fight the deep fires fight so we can dismantle the enemy in depth.

Pick an airframe that works....for each of the services, I think the Marines (less), Army (more), and SOF (more) are the customer here. There is life below 3000 feet AGL. The Air Force was basically forced at gun point to field the A10, its treatment and approach to it bears this out. Trying to continually off ramp the airframe since the 1980s. It's initial design and avionics spartan as not to tie up too much in it as it would be 'gone soon'.

In the great Title 10 and Joint capabilities brawl, the Air Force has kept that mission along with intratheater lift. In the immortal words of Yoda: Do or not do. If the service wants to focus on Air Dominance (i.e. High end) at the exclusion of all else, give the airframes, personnel, and budgets to the Army so they can execute their own CAS. Sound crazy? Not really. That was life before 1947. The Marines fly CAS as part of the MAGTF, the Army could do the same thing as an extension of combined arms operations. Many countries have the mud on the windshield guys separate from the counter air guys.
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Col Joseph Lenertz
Col Joseph Lenertz
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I would enjoy having this discussion in more depth. You are correct that the Army did execute their own fixed wing CAS before 1947. It was a disaster. The North Africa campaign. The term "Penny Packeting" was born. Every commander was assigned an equal but insufficient number of aircraft. No commander, even while in the rear, would share his fixed wing across division lines. The whole concept failed to recognize the unique characteristics of fixed wing aircraft...speed and range. It makes them a theater-level asset in order to make them able to be allocated where needed most. Army Roles and missions, and the prioritization of those within the Army. USAF roles and missions, and the prioritization of those within the USAF. Centralized control and decentralized execution. Allocation and apportionment of theater airpower. Al of these must be understood to have an informed discussion about Air as a co-equal domain. Neither the Army nor the Marines is the Air Force's customer. Like I said, plenty to discuss.
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LTC Jason Mackay
LTC Jason Mackay
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Col Joseph Lenertz if we are prohibited from acquiring the capability organically then we are someone’s customer. That was the outcome of joint capabilities assessment and Title 10 parsing to minimize duplication and force joint ness.

I do t think the WWII era ground air integration outcome is instructive or indicative of how the Army would run it. I think the CCA of rotary wing or the contemporary MAGTF or a yet to be named realization of the dream of AirLand Battle.
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CPT Jack Durish
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If it said "The US Air Force needs a light attack drone", I may have been inclined to give it consideration. But, it doesn't, and it doesn't hold water for the reasons you state. The fact that some member of Congress is promoting the idea makes me even more leery...
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Col Joseph Lenertz
Col Joseph Lenertz
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Agree, especially in light of the new policy which allows us to "enlist" enlisted drone pilots.
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
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I think drones would be the way to go on this. Not airplane seats to be filled.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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I firmly belief that we will see a tremendous growth in the use of drones.
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