Posted on May 22, 2016
Condoning Transgenderism Is Like Agreeing with Anorexics That They Are Fat
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I suspect that I'm going to catch hell for sharing this but when has that ever stopped me? The truth is that "truth" is difficult and some actually "can't handle it". Now, before you castigate me for the ideas contained herein, remember that I didn't say or write the words. Before you castigate me for sharing this link to them, keep in mind that difficult topics are the ones we really need to discuss openly rather than allowing them to fester and poison us. Lastly, before you turn away at the idea of an article published on CNS, keep in mind that ideas are not the exclusive domain of your favorite sources. Other people, not you and not your peers, have ideas, some of which may have merit. If nothing else, it's always good to know what "the other side" is up to or saying. In other words, never turn your back on your enemy...
Condoning Transgenderism Is Like Agreeing with Anorexics That They Are Fat
Posted from cnsnews.com
Psychology
LGBTQ+
Transgender
Posted >1 y ago
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CPT Durish,
We meet again. You and I routinely find ourselves on the oposite side of this issue. What I find of note is that the VAST majority of posts tagged in "transgender" on RP are not posted by trans people but instead by people condemning is in one way or another. It's odd that we so often find ourselves being talked about rather than too. In another post that you put up I invited people to ask me questions and open dialogue. Only one did.
The anti trans camp typically quoted 3 studies that were done. The pro trans camp will quote 2-3 other studies. Not surprisingly both sides have information that supports us. Fortunately they can't put anything on the internet that isn't true...
I would submit that being trans is not psychological but in fact neurobiological. It's the different between computer software and computer hardwar. This is an important distinction. Psychological transgenderism would at the worst relegate trans people to a deviance of some kind, although that doesn't diminish their feelings or experiences, nor does it make the approved treatment wrong. At the least it suggests that psychological wiring, which likely happens during infancy or toddler years is incredibly strong and likely permanent.
Neuro biological however suggests that this is a wiring issue. The notion that gender is predetermined and can, occasionally, not coincide with biology, is not without merit.
No matter what open trans service will bring better understanding and more effective treatment, which will be better for all trans people.
We meet again. You and I routinely find ourselves on the oposite side of this issue. What I find of note is that the VAST majority of posts tagged in "transgender" on RP are not posted by trans people but instead by people condemning is in one way or another. It's odd that we so often find ourselves being talked about rather than too. In another post that you put up I invited people to ask me questions and open dialogue. Only one did.
The anti trans camp typically quoted 3 studies that were done. The pro trans camp will quote 2-3 other studies. Not surprisingly both sides have information that supports us. Fortunately they can't put anything on the internet that isn't true...
I would submit that being trans is not psychological but in fact neurobiological. It's the different between computer software and computer hardwar. This is an important distinction. Psychological transgenderism would at the worst relegate trans people to a deviance of some kind, although that doesn't diminish their feelings or experiences, nor does it make the approved treatment wrong. At the least it suggests that psychological wiring, which likely happens during infancy or toddler years is incredibly strong and likely permanent.
Neuro biological however suggests that this is a wiring issue. The notion that gender is predetermined and can, occasionally, not coincide with biology, is not without merit.
No matter what open trans service will bring better understanding and more effective treatment, which will be better for all trans people.
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CPT Jack Durish
CPT John Sheridan - You first attacked the source... "CNS News is more issue advocacy than news" then took a swipe at the author... "he is also a 'researcher' for a couple of conservative think tanks, so is advocating for a particular world view." (Researcher in quotes was the "give-away")
If the states (acting alone or in concert through the ALEC) violate a person or group's civil rights, the issue should be decided in the courts. Hopefully, the states would deal with it rationally, but when they don't we have processes for redressing grievances. An Executive Order from an imperial President is not among them.
If the states (acting alone or in concert through the ALEC) violate a person or group's civil rights, the issue should be decided in the courts. Hopefully, the states would deal with it rationally, but when they don't we have processes for redressing grievances. An Executive Order from an imperial President is not among them.
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SSG Patricia King
CPT Jack Durish - I don't agree at all. President Obama is a lame duck. He has nothing to gain or lose which tells me that he believes in the cause. Further I agree with the legislation. The notion that this opens our bathrooms to those people is proposterous. It is the least likely course of action for them. Further it is not supported by history. Legislation similar to this has existed in Themis country and elsewhere in the world for over a decade with little or no issue. Using perverts as an argument to stop this legislation is in my view reckless.
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CPT Jack Durish
SSG Patricia King - No one can truly know what is in the mind of another (even if they tell us). My objection relates to the results of the President's decrees and actions. What he did exacerbated the problem. Why he did it? Who knows?
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CPT John Sheridan
Issue advocacy is one of the stated goals of the MRC, CNS' parent organization. CNS. Includes much editorial commentary and and includes editorial comments in many of the news stories they publish. In my mind, that makes CNS issue advocacy. That doesn't invalidate what they do. In the media, news organizations are exceedingly rare.. Most are either issue advocacy (the point of First Amendment Freedom of the Press) or commercial messaging.
"Research" because I am a purist at heart and come from a science background. Organizations call what they do research and give titles as such, which would be better characterized by words like investigation, analysis, fact-finding, examination, and scrutiny. All elements of research, but not research themselves. Of course, no one wants the title "Principle Scrutinizer".
So, my biggest and most substantive criticism is the click bait headline. With the headline, the editor mischaracterized what the author said.
"Research" because I am a purist at heart and come from a science background. Organizations call what they do research and give titles as such, which would be better characterized by words like investigation, analysis, fact-finding, examination, and scrutiny. All elements of research, but not research themselves. Of course, no one wants the title "Principle Scrutinizer".
So, my biggest and most substantive criticism is the click bait headline. With the headline, the editor mischaracterized what the author said.
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I disagree. This is old school thinking that says that gender identity disorder is a mental illness. It is not. Tests have proven that these people actually have thought processes very similar to the gender with which they identity. Not being to truly express oneself is a precursor to actual mental illness, such as depression and suicide. I work with two people who are in transition and I have found them to be open, intelligence, funny, confident and generally happy. However, I would not have thought them to be so before they made their decision to be true to themselves.
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im not even surprised by posts like this anymore. its always somebody from a past generation trying to keep things the way they are. you understand homosexuality was once considered a mental illness too right? why are we using an example from a tv show from the 70s. a grand old time when cars didn't have airbags and people chain smoked around children. so you get my point. we as a nation need to stop thinking with a 50 year old mentality. id call it ignorant.
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