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Yea - we already know where you (blindly) stand. Glad you could actually address the OP.
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This is likely an overall indictment of our particular penal system. But I think it is intellectually dishonest to dismiss these actions on the basis of the Capitol being "The People's house". It isn't a B&B. You can't just show up and demand an audience or a room to rest your weary head.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
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Capt Gregory Prickett - From findlaw.com legal dictionary:

Insurrection: the act or an instance of revolting esp. violently against civil or political authority or against an established government

Portland riots: revolt? yes. Violent? yes. Against civil authority? yes. Against political authority? yes. Against established government? Yes.

Portland was an insurrection, by definition.


Washington DC: revolt? sort of - but we will go with yes. Violent? yes. Against civil authority? No* Against political authority? No** Against established government? No.

Washington DC was not an insurrection, by definition***.

*While there was violence directed against the capitol police (civil authority), the REVOLT was not directed against them.

**While there was the intent of violence towards congress, the violence did not actually reach them. Additionally, the "revolt" was not against Congress, per se, but rather against Joe Biden - who was NOT the established government. The "revolt" was an attempt to prevent Congress from installing Joe Biden - he was the target, not Congress. Thus, the "revolt" wasn't actually against Congress.

***Yes, I understand that my interpretation herein is shaky. I can completely understand how others would not interpret it the same as I. I will not say someone who interprets this differently than me has a learning disability or is stupid or ignorant - just that they have a different interpretation. Ultimately it will be up to the prosecutors to see if they want to charge anyone with insurrection - and up to the courts to see if prosecutors can actually make those charges stick. Based on my interpretation, which I admit is shaky, I believe prosecutors will not be able to make insurrection charges stick for anyone on January 6th - because my interpretation can provide reasonable doubt regarding the specifics for any individual accused.

That is not true for the Portland riots, however. Those were VERY CLEARLY directed against established civil and political authorities. Prosecutors aren't charging insurrection - but they could. And they could make it stick, IMHO.


I have no learning disability. I just don't allow the leftist double speak to cloud my judgment.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
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SSgt (Join to see) - No, that's not the "key word" in the statute. See Ralph W. Conant, "Rioting, Insurrection and Civil Disobedience", 37 The Am. Scholar 420 (1968). One of the keys is prior planning, which you had in the Capitol insurrection, but did not have in the Portland riots.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
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SFC Casey O'Mally - I've told you before that I'm not a leftist. Let me know when you are going to respect that, and I'll unblock you.
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There is plenty of proof that the attacks in Portland were coordinated days in advance. Shoots your theory all to hell. Just like the murder charge you were talking about for whoever clocked the officer with a fire extinguisher, who died on Jan 7th. That was a news narrative and you bought it hook, line and sinker, then heavily chastised anybody here on RP that said "no, he was not hit with any fire extinguisher" - myself included.

I'm done with your arm chair lawyering about incidents you only know 3rd hand via the news. You are not on any of the evidentiary chains, you are not doing any of the actual discovery, nor are you doing depositions or planning the legal offense or defense.
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The justice system is always two tiered. Just depends on what side of the coin you land on sadly.
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