Esper concerned over federal agents dressed like military troops in U.S. cities

MSG Tom Earley is be very interested in seeing that patch. I have a hunch that’s it’s about 2 inches square and black lettering on black fabric. I don’t doubt that they were issued these uniforms. I’m objecting to the fact that they were issued these particular uniforms.

MSG Tom Earley ope. I was close!

MSG Tom Earley I get that, I do. I’m not holding the individual officers responsible for what they were issued. I’m saying we need to take a long look at who issued it and why. I mean...look at it from a *purely* selfish standpoint: these guys attract a lot more negative attention than the military typically does. I don’t want to be lumped in with them, or worse targeted because some whack job with an axe to grind thinks I’m one of them.

MSG Tom Earley we had NG troops deployed to almost every major metro in the country when this all started and other than one shooting where Guardsmen were present but no evidence they fired it all went off without a single high profile incident that I. Can recall.

I like navy blue for LEO.

MAJ Byron Oyler - As a COP we used black, it was a Special Enforcement Amphibious Section (SEAS) unit.

SGT Carl Blas - Black or hot pink, they are still military style uniforms.

SPC Erich Guenther - You got a point there

SFC Thomas Foreman - How is it deflection when this article would not have been written had the Mayor done what he was supposed to? They are directly related, one to the other.

SSG Robert Perrotto ...police officers would still be dressed like this whether the riots happened or not?

SPC Erich Guenther it was wrong then it’s wrong now. I’ve been consistent on that. Police officers should not look like soldiers. Period.

SFC Thomas Foreman - and so - all you are doing is offering a personal opinion, Opinions can be disagreed with, and rebutted. The reason Law Enforcement have this gear is because of situations just like this - where a mob of discontents throw rocks, bottles, fire bombs, and carry weapons of their own. Lets not beat around the bush here - Portland insurgents have occupied the ICE facility, and have attacked the federal courthouse, not to mention all the businesses burned, destroyed, looted and vandalized, fellow citizens in fear of being targeted by these insurgents for 3 fucking years. Enough is enough, people want to go back to work, without fear of some masked thugs taking a bike lock or club to their head, or their businesses destroyed. Americans support reforms, but they do not support the chaos and mayhem going on in their neighborhoods and places of work. This will not turn into a civil war, because 67% of people polled support the police, are against defunding, and want the riots to stop.