Posted on Oct 29, 2017
FBI's use of foreign intelligence driving privacy debate
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Interesting questions, worthy of Congressional debate.
Should the FBI, which currently can check phone metadata records of who/where phone calls were placed without a warrant, check foreign intelligence databases for information about a US citizen without a warrant?
What about a future Lee Harvey Oswald?
What about the Tsarnaev brothers?
For those of us who travel and communicate with personnel overseas, for both personal and business reasons, do we have any realistic expectation to protected information about our travels, while acknowledging that there may well exist foreign intelligence files regarding our overseas activities?
Should the FBI be able to query Interpol files of US citizens without a warrant?
Are we talking only about the FBI, or are we also addressing certain other US activities such as TSA?
Should the FBI, which currently can check phone metadata records of who/where phone calls were placed without a warrant, check foreign intelligence databases for information about a US citizen without a warrant?
What about a future Lee Harvey Oswald?
What about the Tsarnaev brothers?
For those of us who travel and communicate with personnel overseas, for both personal and business reasons, do we have any realistic expectation to protected information about our travels, while acknowledging that there may well exist foreign intelligence files regarding our overseas activities?
Should the FBI be able to query Interpol files of US citizens without a warrant?
Are we talking only about the FBI, or are we also addressing certain other US activities such as TSA?
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Sgt Wayne Wood
the problem we find in many instances are the ways AROUND the laws that were never considered by the framers.
once you leave America you do not surrender your rights IN AMERICA but you ARE subject to the laws of the countries you travel in... i.e. they CAN spy on you.
extending that, Intelligence Sharing between governmental agencies is not only accepted, but encouraged. so now we have an issue, a US agency getting data LEGALLY from a foreign agency that they would not be able to LEGALLY obtain were they to go through regular US channels.
yup, only lawyers and politicians could create THIS can of worms.
once you leave America you do not surrender your rights IN AMERICA but you ARE subject to the laws of the countries you travel in... i.e. they CAN spy on you.
extending that, Intelligence Sharing between governmental agencies is not only accepted, but encouraged. so now we have an issue, a US agency getting data LEGALLY from a foreign agency that they would not be able to LEGALLY obtain were they to go through regular US channels.
yup, only lawyers and politicians could create THIS can of worms.
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Interesting that the author did not note the exchange involving Rep. Trey Gowdy, I wonder why?
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/20/rep-trey-gowdy-grills-fbis-comey-on-wiretapping-russia.html
https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/news/politics/2017/07/03/chairman-gowdy-surveillance-programs-going-go-away-unless-intel-cooperates/
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/20/rep-trey-gowdy-grills-fbis-comey-on-wiretapping-russia.html
https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/news/politics/2017/07/03/chairman-gowdy-surveillance-programs-going-go-away-unless-intel-cooperates/
Rep Trey Gowdy grills FBI's Comey on wiretapping, Russia
Here's a transcript of Rep. Trey Gowdy grilling FBI Director James Comey before the House Intelligence Committee.
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Sgt Wayne Wood
Love Trey Gowdy... a no bullshit prosecutor... almost makes up for that embarassment James Clyburn
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