Posted on May 27, 2018
Finally, a terrorist the left doesn’t love
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We do not treat suspected terrorists as human beings because they are good or decent people, but because we ourselves struggle to be good and decent people. It's also worth noting that the convicted terrorist, Shelley Shannon, was afforded all his basic human rights, something suspected terrorists in GITMO are not afforded. I don't or recall anyone saying that he should be tortured or locked up indefinitely without trial.
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
You have no idea what you're talking about, Sergeant. ICRC physicians I worked with at Gitmo and later in Iraq told me, "No one does [detention operations] better than the US." Talk about something you know. Stay in your lane. You are insinuating that your brothers and sisters at arms commit abuse as a matter of routine. I assure you, 99.9 percent of all of those who serve at Gitmo treat detainees with dignity and respect, as per the Geneva Conventions and Law of Land Warfare, even though as unlawful combatants they are entitled to absolutely nothing and could have all been legally killed on the battlefield. There is no moral comparison between Gitmo and how our enemies treat their captives. The Islamist equivalent to Gitmo is a pile of heads.
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The Geneva convention requires certain minimum standards of treatment, however just because something isn't outlawed by the Geneva convention doesn't mean it's right. We know torture took place at GITMO.
How we treat our captives tells the world who we are, how they treat their captives tells the world who they are... No one is saying we should treat people the way we would want to be treated because that is what someone else is doing.
http://www.ibtimes.com/guantanamo-bay-torture-sexual-abuse-worse-2014-senate-report-indicated-detainee-1949220
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/12/13/united-states-torture-continues-guantanamo-bay-united-nations-expert/949052001/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/torture-cover-up-at-gitmo/
How we treat our captives tells the world who we are, how they treat their captives tells the world who they are... No one is saying we should treat people the way we would want to be treated because that is what someone else is doing.
http://www.ibtimes.com/guantanamo-bay-torture-sexual-abuse-worse-2014-senate-report-indicated-detainee-1949220
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/12/13/united-states-torture-continues-guantanamo-bay-united-nations-expert/949052001/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/torture-cover-up-at-gitmo/
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
No one was ever tortured at Gitmo. "A handful of detainees were waterboarded" at Gitmo, and the information obtained "saved many lives," as per President George W. Bush in his memoir, "Decision Points." All Enhanced Interrogation Techniques used were approved and legal at the time they were used. None of the EIT were torture, nor did any of them fit the internationally accepted definition of torture at the time. Only later was waterboarding arbitrarily added to the list of torture techniques, again without the technique fitting the accepted definition of torture.
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SPC Jesse Davis
Except we know that isn't true. Not only is waterboarding very much torture, but the CIA itself has been forced to recognize that torture does not reliably produce actionable intel. Nevermind that few, if any of the Gitmo detainees ever saw due process. No small number were innocent.
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