Posted on Feb 19, 2020
Following Trump attacks, veterans rally behind Lt. Col. Vindman
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Veterans are really doing no such thing. I don't know one veteran in my circle that think this guy is worth a pot to piss in or a good window to throw it out of. He doesn't like Trump's Ukraine policy and felt like weaponizing his role on the NSC. He got his just reward, reassignment. That is the way the coookie crumbles. I am sure he will ultimately retire with a full pension and VA benefits. Don't shed a tear for Alex.
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Vindman looks like the kind of guy who orders some specialist to go get his lunch every day because he's too lazy to walk to the DFAC. LOL
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Trump supporters don't care that LTCs Vindman have been retaliated against for LTC Vindman's protected communications, the Whistleblower Protection Act (or NSC equivalent), or any NSC, DoD, or Army policy on whistleblower protections. Anyone who takes any action, makes any statement in opposition to, or reports what they may have legitimately believed to be a violation of law or ethics related to Trump are automatically characterized as "Deep State," "Never Trumper," "traitors" solely because Trump says so, and without regard of fact or length of dedicated service to this Nation. There are no longer any Brothers in Arms, only Trump loyalists or enemies of Trump.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
You are not entirely correct regarding whistleblower status. The Military Whistleblower Protection Act states protection is afforded to military members in ANY communication with congress, inspector general, and other parties under competent regulation. LTC Joe Anderson (Taz or Joe since I'm Retiring)
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MAJ Ken Landgren
Through the Military Whistleblower Protection Act, he is considered a whistleblower. 1SG (Join to see)
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MAJ Ken Landgren
Then why are there many, many articles stating he is protected? This also includes Military Times. Either they are wrong or you are wrong. LTC Joe Anderson (Taz or Joe since I'm Retiring)
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1SG (Join to see)
LTC Joe Anderson (Taz or Joe since I'm Retiring) I appreciate your civil, and thorough, responses. I agree we both have drawn our own inferences, and have some opinions that differ. I appreciate responses that are based on fact, as you provide.
For example, I missed LTC Vindman's referencing NSC counsel as chain of command. I do not accept a LTC not knowing the COC, and counsel or JAG aren't in the COC. Now, I'm forced to be more critical of everything else he says.
I don't have your experience in a related field, but I understand roles. As a 1SG, my commander and I didn't agree 100% of the time. If I disagreed with the COA he wanted to take, I made my case. Sometimes he elected to change the COA, others, he didn't. When we left his office, and I stood in front of the company, it was always, "We will....." It was never, "The commander said..." My role was 1SG, not commander.
It's possible LTC Vindman stepped outside of his role. I would expect a LTC to know to raise an issue with the COC, and, if the COC was unresponsive, the IG or MOC. Admittedly, if I were going to report something, and believed the COC would be unresponsive, I would report it to the IG or MOC, AND notify my COC of that contact to protect myself. I now have to draw the inference that LTC Vindman's actions may have been political.
Best Regards.
For example, I missed LTC Vindman's referencing NSC counsel as chain of command. I do not accept a LTC not knowing the COC, and counsel or JAG aren't in the COC. Now, I'm forced to be more critical of everything else he says.
I don't have your experience in a related field, but I understand roles. As a 1SG, my commander and I didn't agree 100% of the time. If I disagreed with the COA he wanted to take, I made my case. Sometimes he elected to change the COA, others, he didn't. When we left his office, and I stood in front of the company, it was always, "We will....." It was never, "The commander said..." My role was 1SG, not commander.
It's possible LTC Vindman stepped outside of his role. I would expect a LTC to know to raise an issue with the COC, and, if the COC was unresponsive, the IG or MOC. Admittedly, if I were going to report something, and believed the COC would be unresponsive, I would report it to the IG or MOC, AND notify my COC of that contact to protect myself. I now have to draw the inference that LTC Vindman's actions may have been political.
Best Regards.
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