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Cpl Mark McMiller
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What this article says about Great Britain is a bullshit smoke-and-mirrors argument and here's why: The article says that gun deaths are way down since Great Britain banned firearms. And, of course, that is true because less guns obviously mean less gun deaths. However, what they are intentionally not telling you is that while gun deaths have been drastically lowered, violent crime has drastically gone up to the point that Great Britain has one of, if not the, highest violent crime rates per capita in the EU and much higher than in the US.

Germany is an example that a high number of gun does not necessarily equal a high number of gun deaths

Australia is an example that low numbers of guns might equal a low crime rate.

Japan's low crime rate has more to do with their culture than the amount of guns available.

The question I have for all of the countries that have heavy gun control or complete banning of guns is: What are the people in those countries going to do if their government becomes tyrannical? Because when comparing other countries' gun ownership to the United States, that really is the only relevant question because that is what our 2nd Amendment is all about.
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In both those conflicts you have Americans who were armed with all of the same technology as the British. Plus it was a battle of logistics lines vs home terf. We also got a lot of help from France.

Today the US military has over 200 heavy bombers, over 5,000 strike aircraft, over 6,000 helicopters, over 6,000 tanks, plus 10 carrier strike groups and roughly the same number of expeditionary strike groups. The american citizen has zero SAMs, zero combat aircraft, zero anti-tank weaponry, and is vulnerable to all the technology the military currently has. Fortunately for us the military is made up of citizens who would never support a tyrannical government otherwise if that happened the US military would run over this country in a few weeks.
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Cpl Mark McMiller
Cpl Mark McMiller
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CDR (Join to see) - All of those wonderfully expensive, technological weapons that you speak of are only useful if you are able to identify and target your enemy.
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SSG Robert Webster
SSG Robert Webster
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CDR (Join to see) - Do you really think that if it came to it that the US Military would bomb or use artillery against it's own civilian populace? And if you think that the private individual is not capable of fabricating their own surface to air missiles, have I and others got a big surprise for you. Not only that, they (the aircraft that is) wouldn't be very useful if they were not able to get off the ground. (in that regard, your supposed to be a Naval Aviator, take a look at all of the Navy and Marine Corps airfields minus aircraft carriers and their locations.) And as far as anti-tank weaponry, that is even easier that surface to air missiles. But then you get to the demise of your own argument about the current military not supporting a tyrannical government, be what may if it was the case, I do not stand alone. You tend to forget that the veteran population is just as well trained in these arts of war as the current generation is. And no the US military could not run over this country in a few weeks.
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SPC Casey Ashfield
SPC Casey Ashfield
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The typical American civilian has a lot more ammo than your average Afghan warlord. With the limited ROE of the OEF conflict, goat herders have been keeping us running around for the better part of 2 decades. Population of Afghanistan is roughly that of Texas. Guerilla fighting is something the US military does not do well.
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SPC Mike Lake
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There's not a gun control problem it's a wickedness problem evil hearts and Minds look at the beginning Cain killed Abel with a rock so is there a rock problem back then or was he he Wicked in his heart and wickedness has severely increased on this Earth. back in the 70s kids had shotguns hanging in the back of their truck they would go hunting soon as they got out of school there was no gun problem kids what shooting each other up but now Society has gone and blame the guns for the problem when its man's evil heart that is a problem thousands of people go to NRA rallies every year not one time did you see anybody getting shot buy a gun why everyone there possesses a gun. So this gun control problem is really just a bunch of nonsense go to the heart of the matter we can't blame the tool we got to start blaming the people look at England they're using knives and vehicles now they'll find a way to kill you got evil in your heart just like Cain did he found that rock. We don't ever blame cars for the DUI accidents killing people more than guns we always blame the people driving why don't we blame the people pulling the trigger for all the gun violence just my thoughts
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CW5 Regimental Chief Warrant Officer
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Some of us remember back in the day where we would bring our guns to school. Most of the time we left them in the truck but not always. No issues back then.
Even back when every family had a fowling piece there was no school shootings. What we had instead was kids getting their butt beat when they acted up. We also put them to work and let them have at it after school in the woods. Kids would come home with a bloodied nose without fear that the police would be involved or threatened by a lawsuit.
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CW5 (Join to see) Thanks for the response. I remember those days as well. Unfortunately those days are gone I think. Lots of issues in this country and we have to deal with them in a different manner than we did in the past.
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Sir, I think those days are still with us. We are now 320 million strong while in the 70s we were just over 200 million. Since then, we have 'evolved' on several subjects. Sex and violence being some of them. The inability for us to sort things out on a personal level is what I believe got us to the point we are at (mentally ill or not. We have had mental issues among us since the dawn of time).
The ability to not kill even with tools to do so is still up to the individual. There has been a lot a talk about 'value of life' lately and I question whether or not parents are even discussing that the most important thing on this Earth is human life and then simple regard for each other being the second. Religion used to teach these concepts but even those that choose not to believe can still uphold these simple ideas.
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