GOP begins pushing back against Trump's false election claims

SFC (Join to see) - While I very much appreciate the veracity of your Trump University electrical engineering degree, I will take it with a grain of salt. It won't get "worked out" unless people invest in it.

Also, not sure where you get "better quality of life".... what does that mean exactly? Can you quantify "quality of life"? How does having a moron in the White House, ignorant of the basic and fundamental norms of government like the separation of powers and installing his yes-man cronies contribute to quality?

You think you received some great monetary windfall under Trump with his expiring tax cuts? You do understand that was a pandering tactic, right? And after years screaming about the deficit? In the same fashion you have no actual data to support a mass exodus of jobs going overseas. I know you want to "feel" that is what happened, because that is the line they fed you, but you don't have the data to support it.

Maybe you personally are financially better off. Many people have a price and are easy to buy off. But if you sacrificed your character and integrity for the extra dollars in your pocket, what are they really worth?

MSgt Steve Sweeney OK, I get it. You are so obsessed with President Trump that you can’t see anything else, or maybe you just can’t see. I received my undergraduate at Penn State a long time ago, and have a lot of experience in the school of hard knocks after that. I know what I speak about. I have the satisfaction of knowing that sooner or later you will remember my words. If not you’re just not capable and it doesn’t mean anything anyway.

SFC (Join to see) - I'm obsessed with Trump because we are conversing on a post about Trump and his false election claims? How does that work exactly? You can say all day that you know what you speak about, but when what you are saying is not backed with substance, it is difficult to make that determination. A pseudo-expert is not an expert. Besides, the Trump camp and his enablers and minions do not like experts. They do not like it when people that have actually dedicated time to study and understanding point out how wrong and off base they are. It cramps their bullshitting style. And you can see the content of their character even now in how Trump accepts, or rather does not accept his defeat. Adversity reveals character.

MSgt Steve Sweeney - What qualifications do you have to say anything? I just ended another conversation with a friend or your, part of the conversation sounds like it was made for you so here it is:

Over the last 4 years you have watched a better quality of life, higher wages, and lower unemployment; after seeing all the jobs go overseas. I listen to Biden, if you did you would have herd him talk about new green jobs in renewable energy, he made it sound pretty good didn’t he? The only problem is that was the same path Obama took when he said those jobs aren’t coming back.

Why is this true? Wind and solar energy are deficient in the fact they would need a battery the size of Pennsylvania to be sustainable, besides all the negative effects of killing off birds and bats, in addition to habitat loss. I’m all for sustainable renewable energy, but I’m here to tell you they don’t have it worked out yet. I’m familiar with the court “half a loaf is better that none” argument. In this situation it just doesn’t hold up, one would be throwing good money at something that’s just not sustainable. Of course, the people making money from the current wind and solar aren’t going to tell people that, just like the people making money from putting blended materials into our gasoline aren’t going to tell us it’s actually bad for your car and the environment. I know you won’t believe me, but I just had to put it out here for you. Some day you will remember what I say.

SPC Erich Guenther Yang sounds good for 2024.

1SG (Join to see) - Agree, heard him speak via YouTube without editing and he is a LOT more moderate than the News Media portrays him. He could draw in a LOT of Republican voters if he keeps up his direct contact with the public.

SSG Robert Ricci - I used to live in Wisconsin. Wisconsin never had a dirty election as far back as I can remember. Still candidates with sour grapes always want to slam the state. The real issue is all 50 states are inconsistent with their election rules and candidates see a practice in one state not followed in another state and think it is wrong doing when actually that is the way it was done in the past. In my view Trump blew it in the first debate and thats when he lost a chunk of voters to early voting because early voting started right around the time of that first debate performance which disgusted most people that watched. Trump just did not take this election seriously until the last 3 weeks. Very tough hill to climb then after 2 weeks of early voting had taken place.

SPC Erich Guenther I'm going to need to back you up a bit. First of all, both Biden and Trump lost the debate. But we need to go back even before that. Early mail-in ballot in started a month before the first debate. The debate committee was all Democrats and never trumper's. That has not been disputed. That should never have occurred. The people had a right to see a debate before they began sending in early ballots.

I've been stationed in Wisconsin. Fort McCoy. I actually find Wisconsin to be a lovely State and I haven't said that they have been dishonest in anyway. I haven't even implied it.

The one point that we absolutely agree on is the fact that every state and every county has their own way of doing things. For something as substantial as the federal election for the president of the United States it is my opinion that there should be one unified method of operation. What we know is SOP. Because of the Tenth Amendment the states have the right to make their own laws. This is something however that should go back to Congress and to the states for a constitutional amendment adding that Federal elections shall be governed by federal election law. You're right. The problem is all 50 states. I'm sure we're not naive either one of us to disbelieve that cities like Chicago and Philadelphia as well as Atlanta are not extremely well-versed and how to steal an election. The way I look at it is if you buy a lottery ticket for the Powerball and you fill out your slip with a pencil and bubble in the number to clerk then scans it in and then gives you a printed receipt. As soon as those balls roll out they know who the winning numbers belong to. It's that quick. What are we doing with this Antiquated paper balloting system that is so easily manipulated - that's to say cheated?

I live in the mountains where it's currently snowing and I love the snow. Wisconsin is absolutely beautiful and if I could handle the winter weather I'd have no hesitation moving up there. I'm not a young man anymore though.