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They just did... Read the report. One could argue the Hondurans would have done this regardless of what Trump said, but I doubt it.

The biggest issue with illegal immigration are the short-sighted views of how to stop it. No one ever looks at the root causes of illegal immigration from these so-called "shit hole" countries. I wonder what would happen if organizations (e.g., The Trump Organization, etc.) decided to invest in those countries, instead of denigrating them all the time? But that's a long term proposition and will probably not make money short term.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/central-america-s-violence-turmoil-keeps-driving-families-u-s-n884956

MSgt Neil Greenfield - That is why the migration is always in waves, when economy is bad in home countries, they come here. When economy his good at home, many of them go back home. The problem is at some point, countries need to be able to take care of their own populations (jobs, homes, etc) and not rely on the US to fill the void. I don' mind that we send economic aid, but there needs to be the mechanisms in place in the country to make sure it benefits the people. Right now, and for most of recorded history (sarcasm), it hasn't. I did a community relation project in a central american country, where we built a school for a village. They did not have the money to even build a school for the kids, but they had a nice, relatively new city hall/police station... it is all about priorities...

CPT Gregory Hafera - I totally agree on the drug use. Did 3 counter drug deployments and it was amazing the amount of crap that we stopped, even though it was probably less than 1% of what actually made it. Interestingly enough, I am working as an advisor to Noriega's money launderer. Turns out he went to high school 3 blocks from my home!

Most of the people in the supposed caravan are trying to escape poverty and especially violent crime. This is the root cause of these people trying to leave for a better life.
https://www.insightcrime.org/guatemala-organized-crime-news/

I am well aware of that. Crime and poverty. Same all over much of LA and SA. Some places have escaped that by not tolerating the crime and by encouraging commerce. Look at Costa Rica. If you don't punish criminals (and in these places, they need to try them and then execute them), they take over like cockroaches.

MSgt Neil Greenfield - Organized crime and poverty does not constitute some kind or right or requirement for them to caravan here or for us to accept them. Russia has a very significant organized crime problem too. Are we expected to allow them to come to the US in droves as well? Also, having lived in Guatemala for three years, I know for a fact that it isn't quite like what you would be led to believe. In fact, I've considered going back for a visit and was even recently invited back by friends for an event.

Don't be fooled by what the media is trying to promote and rationalize for the need to tolerate illegal immigration. It's complete BS. Do they have issues? Sure. Lot's of countries do. That's not our problem.

Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin - Vote as you wish. You claim to give credit where credit is due, but I don't find that to be the case (UBL). You were the one that injected Obama into the conversation, giving a hyperbolic example for no particular reason; and given that you claim not to suffer from a political bias, I can't think of any other reason why you would do so. Of course I would not expect you to come right out and say it.

This wasn't a conversation about UBL... I pointed at Obama's very well known line in the sand issued to Syria and their use of chemical weapons, in reference to your statements on the effectiveness of issuing threats without backing them up. Whether Trump has or has not demonstrated his own examples of not being able to follow through, changes nothing. The Obama example highlights my point better, which is why I used it.,

Now, to be clear for you, I did and still do applaud Obama's choice to ultimately authorize the raid (and I never said or implied otherwise). I just don't think it was that hard of a decision to make (i.e. any President would have likely made the exact same decision).
Now that this is settled, I suggest you take a long look in the mirror when it comes to one's political bias.

Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin - You have a very strange way of applauding - almost a back handed sort of way. No need to explain yourself. As I said, I certainly don't expect you to just come out and admit it. You know and I know, and that will suffice.

Wow... First, you brought the UBL thing up. I didn't see the need at that point to be a cheerleader because it was irrelevant. I provided you with my appreciation for it and you continue to whine. There's nothing to admit here.

You want a better response? Ok... Obama made a great decision, which was handed to him through the efforts of his IC, which was all enabled by the previous administration. Nothing I've seen indicates he did anything more than what the previous admin didn't start. So when he was approached with solid intel of where UBL would be and that we have a high degree of getting him, I expected nothing less from any President in making this decision. Still, he made it, it was the right one and I applaud him for that.

That said, your use of this as an example of UBL having the ability to make a hard choice is what I am referring to. It was not a hard decision... It had to be done. Trump putting the pressure on the Honduran, Guatemalan, and even Mexican governments is one of intense controversy as indicated by your criticism. The group is even swelling, in some movement to defy Trump. But note the fact they are proudly displaying the flags of their country of origin as they march up to the US. If they're so proud of it, why leave? Fact is, what I see is not much different than an army advancing on our border.