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Honor Hill Ceremony? If you are blind to this, you need to educate yourself.
It seems to me that in regards to symbology, so many people in the military, government, media, and the public, there are too many people that are blinded.
I Initially mentioned this in the RP discussion - https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-was-told-that-you-aren-t-a-real-infantryman-unless-you-went-to-basic-training-at-fort-benning-what-are-your-opinions-on-this
Take a look at the pictures from the article published by 'The Atlantic', titled "The Army We Have", (dated June 2007) and the images from the article linked in the following RP discussion: https://www.rallypoint.com/shared-links/537459
We the American people, should find out who started the Honor Hill ceremony and question them.
It seems to me that in regards to symbology, so many people in the military, government, media, and the public, there are too many people that are blinded.
I Initially mentioned this in the RP discussion - https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-was-told-that-you-aren-t-a-real-infantryman-unless-you-went-to-basic-training-at-fort-benning-what-are-your-opinions-on-this
Take a look at the pictures from the article published by 'The Atlantic', titled "The Army We Have", (dated June 2007) and the images from the article linked in the following RP discussion: https://www.rallypoint.com/shared-links/537459
We the American people, should find out who started the Honor Hill ceremony and question them.
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School of Infantry (SOI)
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Well in 1982 it was called the "Crossed Rifles Ceremony" and consisted of a Bonfire on top of a hill we didn't necessarily find a steepest hill on Fort Benning nor did we have torch lights, or the heavy litters, or the humongous weight on our backs (which to me seems like they are getting close to the fine line of unnecessary abuse)..... but the ceremony was at end of a road march which was conducted over more than one day in parts with common task testing along the way. In my view after watching the video.........they are getting a little too carried away with it and I hope they don't end up injuring anyone in the lower back before they get to their units.
The ceremony was cancelled in 2007 for my Nephew's class due to severe Thunderstorms that evening and I don't remember him slipping into a deep depression over missing the ceremony due to cancellation.
The ceremony was cancelled in 2007 for my Nephew's class due to severe Thunderstorms that evening and I don't remember him slipping into a deep depression over missing the ceremony due to cancellation.
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SPC Erich Guenther
SSG Robert Webster - I would definitely say post 2000 and probably as late as 2003-2004. The 1990's Infantrymen that I know had a Crossed Rifles ceremony as well with not all these embellishments.
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SSG Robert Webster
SPC Erich Guenther - Thanks. If you ever find or hear a definitive style answer, please post. Thanks.
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SSG Robert Webster
SGT Ed Alves - It may seem cool, but it is not. It is brainwashing BS, plain and simple.
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SSG Robert Webster
LTC Marc King - Let's Go! the motto of the 325th Airborne Infantry Regiment.
Also the motto of the 11th Cavalry Regiment (now 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment) - Black Horse.
Also the motto of the 11th Cavalry Regiment (now 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment) - Black Horse.
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LTC Marc King
[~727910:SGT Joseph The use of Fire to inspire soldiers is a practice that finds its roots in the very early history and organized warfare. We as a society seem to be more sensitive to this “symbolism” than even those who should be most sensitive. I have witnessed the oath taking ceremony of Israeli soldiers at Masada at night... very moving and very “Teutonic” with torches to inspire... The ceremony is preceded by a final run up to Masada... their Honor Hill... We have become hypersensitive to things that have been part of history. There is no doubt that there has been misappropriation of such symbolism and that needs to be addressed but let’s not over react and throw out the baby with the bath water
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SSG Robert Webster
LTC Marc King - All very interesting and mostly true, HOWEVER... There is one major difference - The US Army Infantry did not use this until recently when someone thought (and I use that term loosely) it was necessary, and then built up a BS story to say that it was tradition; tradition to whom? And it hasn't been that long since I graduated from Infantry AIT or the Infantry ANCOC at the Henry Caro NCO Academy. And they did not have that at the Fort Ord or Fort Polk Infantry AIT.
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