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SPC Erich Guenther
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Well in 1982 it was called the "Crossed Rifles Ceremony" and consisted of a Bonfire on top of a hill we didn't necessarily find a steepest hill on Fort Benning nor did we have torch lights, or the heavy litters, or the humongous weight on our backs (which to me seems like they are getting close to the fine line of unnecessary abuse)..... but the ceremony was at end of a road march which was conducted over more than one day in parts with common task testing along the way. In my view after watching the video.........they are getting a little too carried away with it and I hope they don't end up injuring anyone in the lower back before they get to their units.

The ceremony was cancelled in 2007 for my Nephew's class due to severe Thunderstorms that evening and I don't remember him slipping into a deep depression over missing the ceremony due to cancellation.
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SPC Erich Guenther
SPC Erich Guenther
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SSG Robert Webster - I would definitely say post 2000 and probably as late as 2003-2004. The 1990's Infantrymen that I know had a Crossed Rifles ceremony as well with not all these embellishments.
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SSG Robert Webster
SSG Robert Webster
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SPC Erich Guenther - Thanks. If you ever find or hear a definitive style answer, please post. Thanks.
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SGT Ed Alves
SGT Ed Alves
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I graduated Aug/85 from 1st PLT D-9-2 Harmony Church we didn't have this. Sound kind of cool too bad for us.
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SSG Robert Webster
SSG Robert Webster
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SGT Ed Alves - It may seem cool, but it is not. It is brainwashing BS, plain and simple.
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SGT Aaron Cordial
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Sgt John Steinmeier
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So the ceremony is all about white supremacy just because the Nazi party did it and because the Klan did it. Hmmmmm....I would venture to say ceremonies by firelight have been occurring since the dawn of time. I guess that makes the Boy Scout troop I was part of a Neo-Nazi White Supremacist organization as we did something like this during a Jamboree. My High School should also be included as one year at the start of football season they had a large bonfire with torches as well.
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SSG Robert Webster
SSG Robert Webster
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Sgt John Steinmeier Let's not leave out the Swastika in its many forms.
Let's not forget that the anarchist left and others want us to accept the following concept as historical truth (talk about re-writing history): "The swastika has a lengthy history and enduring power, predominantly as a symbol of hate." Interesting that it did not become 'predominantly' a symbol of hate until around 1920 when the Nazi party formally adopted it. Let's calculate that 80 to 100 years as a Nazi hate symbol compared to about 5,000 years of use as a sign of good luck, good fortune, auspiciousness, and well-being. Well we can see what 80 to 100 years of tarnish can do to a symbol and its use.
The same can be said for torchlight ceremonies, but then 80 to 150 years of tarnish can do a lot of damage.
Wake up and fight back against this type of thing.
You do know that the bonfire and torches at the start of the school year are based on pagan, Celtic, and Druidic fire festivals combined with ancient harvest festivals with one of the primary ones being "Samhain" (Summers End). Which by the way was also appropriated by the various Christian churches. Don't forget that jolly old Santa Claus was probably a pagan.
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SSG Robert Webster - True that. One cannot drive around South Korea without seeing the swastika atop Buddhist temples. The symbol is ancient, some sources saying going back to Greek mythology, but also Buddhism has been using it for far longer.
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