Posted on Mar 13, 2021
Jordan Peterson shares poll showing white liberals embrace using violence to pursue political...
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He may be correct as a routine way of thinking. However, most white liberals (in the traditional sense of the word) have little or no real life experience in the active shedding of blood. Combat operations are horrible. They are only made better by going through the experience with men and women who love their nation and their buddies enough to lay it all on the line. I personally believe that the experience of combat makes 95% of its participants less likely to embrace violence as a tool of routine political change. That being said, the more certain that "the 95%" become that the Republic is about to fall due to the machinations of a "junta" in Washington, the more likely it becomes that many will "go to the mattresses". Eventually, it will all come down to commitment. However I greatly fear that this time it would look more like the French Revolution and less like the War of the Rebellion (1861-1865).
Jordan Peterson shares poll showing white liberals embrace using violence to pursue political...
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Plenty of liberals have spilled blood. As for your 2 examples it very could be brother against brother and father against son, I don't think we will take the time for show trials like the French did, but I do think it would be like what happened between the revolutionaries and the Tories during the revolution. That was very ruthless.
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1LT Brian Tychonski
Civil War is an oxymoron. There is very little civil about war and wars between competing ideologies are the worst. A man I spoke with told how his father was emasculated with a tin can and then had his genitals shoved into his mouth by the communists during the Greek civil war because the communists had thought he was an informant. During our own (in)Civil War, a Union Army patrol caught the sons of a plantation owner out hunting, decapitated them and put their heads on the gate posts of the plantation. The previously apolitical father out for revenge became the most lethal sniper of the war. His first victim being the Lieutenant that had ordered his sons murdered.
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In my opinion the only true "civil war" was fought in the Southern Colonies during the War of The Revolution. I wasn't expecting the show trials in France as much as summary executions on a wide scale. I also said "most" Liberals, not all liberals.
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Jefferson said that the tree of liberty must from time to time be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants for that is its natural manure (fertilizer). I fear that you are right in your assessment that a 21st Century "Reign of Terror" may very well be on the horizon. Honestly, I think I might prefer the deaths of a few thousand corrupt politicians, their bureaucrat minions and their (as Lenin called them) useful idiot followers than the deaths of millions of innocent people in another 1860s style civil war. Hopefully, afterwards the very idea of corruption in public service will become so repugnant that few will even consider it.
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1LT Brian Tychonski
SFC Randy Hellenbrand You should take a class on the history of fascism. The only true fascists are those on the left. The Proud Boys are not using violence or coercion to silence their political opponents. That is the very hallmark of a fascist organization. They are not going to Antifa rallies and attacking them. Antifa IS going to the rallies of those they disagree with and violently attacking them. The Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers haven't burnt down any businesses, attacked police officers with improvised explosive devices (four M80 firecrackers taped together is the equivalent of a stick of dynamite) nor have they killed dozens of people. Antifa has done all of this. Winston Churchill ( a man who knew a thing or two about fighting fascists) said that "when the fascists return, they will claim to be anti fascists." BTW, fascists were socialists, as were the Nazis.
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SFC Randy Hellenbrand
1LT Brian Tychonski - OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! Stalin is left wing! You need to brush up on your ideologies. I can definitely see who the useful idiot follower is. I have one other comment for you: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ................................................
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1LT Brian Tychonski
SFC Randy Hellenbrand I happen to have a degree in Political Science with a minor in History. Mussolini founded the Fascist movement in Italy following WWI. Hitler followed his lead when he took control of the National Socialist Workers Party of Germany aka the NAZI party. His party platform included gun control, abortion, universal healthcare, universal education, etc etc etc. Sound familiar? Fascists don't seize the means of production, they simply tell the owners of the factories what they can and can not make or face loss of their assets. Sort of like the CAFE standards that the US government is forcing on the car makers demanding that they make cars that get 50 MPG (which isn't possible for a truck) by a given date or face stiff fines. Or the government mandate that oil companies add the unavailable cellulosic ethanol to gasoline or face a fine of 10 cents a gallon of gas produced. Yes, you are paying 10 cents extra PER GALLON of gasoline because some government bureaucrat decided to mandated a fuel additive that doesn't even exist in commercial quantities.
Your comment about Stalin shows a serious lack of knowledge of 20th century history. Hitler avoided the non armament provisions of the Treaty of Versailles that ended WWI by signing a non aggression pact (which he broke in 1941 with operation Babarossa) with Stalin allowing Germany to develop and build weapons in the USSR prior to the start of hostilities in the late 30s.
You really are a prime example of the brain washing that the media has engaged in for the last couple of decades. I've always tried to have respect for NCOs. Often far more respect than they gave me, but you are woefully uninformed.
Your comment about Stalin shows a serious lack of knowledge of 20th century history. Hitler avoided the non armament provisions of the Treaty of Versailles that ended WWI by signing a non aggression pact (which he broke in 1941 with operation Babarossa) with Stalin allowing Germany to develop and build weapons in the USSR prior to the start of hostilities in the late 30s.
You really are a prime example of the brain washing that the media has engaged in for the last couple of decades. I've always tried to have respect for NCOs. Often far more respect than they gave me, but you are woefully uninformed.
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War of Rebellion. So you subscribe to that alternate universe stuff as well. OMG!
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No, in spite of the the war being called "the Civil War" most of the time, it wasn't one. The Confederacy desired to leave the United States not take control of it. If you look at the official records you will see the title is "Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies in the War of the Rebellion".
SFC Hellenbrand, I consider your reply to be derisive and unbecoming of a very senior NCO. Although I have in the past replied in similar fashion, I believe it is incumbent upon "old soldiers" like us to set a better tone. I am trying to lead to a better and more professional RP. Join me in the effort.
SFC Hellenbrand, I consider your reply to be derisive and unbecoming of a very senior NCO. Although I have in the past replied in similar fashion, I believe it is incumbent upon "old soldiers" like us to set a better tone. I am trying to lead to a better and more professional RP. Join me in the effort.
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