Posted on Nov 23, 2024
Lawmakers backing separate cyber force see opening with Trump’s return - Breaking Defense
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As a former cyberspace warfare officer and a huge advocate for cyber, I’m not so sure we’re ready for a separate service. I could argue for it or against it, but ultimately we’re not ready as we’re are still trying to mature the expertise of the people who would lead it.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
My issue with a separate service is duplication of administration and training if other branches have any cyber. It took us decades for medical to go purple and now the majority of medical training happens at FT Sam Houston. We need to be more purple than anything and like areas fall under same administrative personnel. COL Randall Cudworth Lt Col Charlie Brown
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
COL Randall Cudworth - The leadership is in place, but it is the maturity of the discipline (and that knowledge base of the leadership) I am concerned about. It really was hit or miss as to whether we'd have a cyber operations savvy leader going into the squadron (or equivilant) level and above for example. But once we have consistent leadership with a high degree of cyber ops experience, only then can they build a better cyber ops construct, suited for a seperate service. Prior to Space becoming their own service, we had decades worth of operational work, doctrine, integration, and maturity as a combat service. Cyber is still working their way into that as far as I am concered.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
Lt Col Charlie Brown - Cyber Command was never "under the Air Force" (with regards to it's commander as a Joint Command upon it's creation in 2010) until just this year when Gen Haugh took over the command from Gen Nakasone. But yes, I agree in that we aren't ready for a seperate service yet. I spent 17 of my 27 years within the DoD specifically oriented to cyber operations, with the rest in traditional communications (most of which still had a cyber element). My introduction to cyber began in 1997, and went back and forth, with me fighting the Air Force to keep me in cyber vs traditional comm until I retired.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
MAJ Byron Oyler - All services have their own admin and training, but currently administrative training for Space is still aligned under the AF and USMC is still aligned under the Navy for much of theirs. I would assume Cyber would go to the Army. On the operational side, there is the cyber operations specific training which is NOT consistent across the service's cyber forces. In fact, there is a duplication across each of the services, and the creation of CyberCom actually helped get visibility of this and it got a little better (but it has a long way to go). The training is different, the tools, and much of the defensive side of cyber ops is different in execution.
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Sorry, I am against creating a separate force for this. It should be contained and maintained in the current services.
I had and still have a problem with the creation of the Space Force too. No one can tell us what the Space Force has accomplished since it's inception.
I had and still have a problem with the creation of the Space Force too. No one can tell us what the Space Force has accomplished since it's inception.
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