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I found interesting how he compared our society to what happened in Greece in their peak. Perhaps all dominant societies and cultures become soft with their wealth and this is part of the historical cycle. I think similar things happened with the Roman Empire. Perhaps, we are in the twilight of American strength.
Clearly this was written from a particular slant with no objectivity given. I do agree that our society has and is changing. People these days know more about the Kardashians than what our military is doing in the Middle East. There is less a sense of civic responsibility (e.g. our low election turn-out rates) and more a sense of entitlement. I think those traits in our culture do not help us remain strong. We see political correctness (PC) continuing to expand beyond what he said in this article. Many think of PC as not offending certain groups of people. But I see it as more than that. It stifles open discussions for people who disagree with a certain point of view and are shamed. It would be hard for anyone to argue that PC has not adversely affected our military. The arguments that I have heard and read about women going into combat units were all about giving women the same opportunities for promotion since most GOs come from the combat arms. I have yet to read anything that talks about how women in Infantry will make our units more lethal and capable. In fact, the USMC study appeared to show otherwise. Yet that is the wave of the future.
As far as LTC West goes, I am hesitant to criticize or condone what he did because I have not faced anything like that. The same goes with police officers who use lethal force and then get in trouble. He did what he felt was best for his Soldiers to keep them alive. I am sure our enemies laughed when they heard he got in trouble for that. But as Americans, we should have higher ideals. Was his Article 15 an act of PC? I am not sure. But it does seem like there are some Soldiers who are alive today because of what he did.
Clearly this was written from a particular slant with no objectivity given. I do agree that our society has and is changing. People these days know more about the Kardashians than what our military is doing in the Middle East. There is less a sense of civic responsibility (e.g. our low election turn-out rates) and more a sense of entitlement. I think those traits in our culture do not help us remain strong. We see political correctness (PC) continuing to expand beyond what he said in this article. Many think of PC as not offending certain groups of people. But I see it as more than that. It stifles open discussions for people who disagree with a certain point of view and are shamed. It would be hard for anyone to argue that PC has not adversely affected our military. The arguments that I have heard and read about women going into combat units were all about giving women the same opportunities for promotion since most GOs come from the combat arms. I have yet to read anything that talks about how women in Infantry will make our units more lethal and capable. In fact, the USMC study appeared to show otherwise. Yet that is the wave of the future.
As far as LTC West goes, I am hesitant to criticize or condone what he did because I have not faced anything like that. The same goes with police officers who use lethal force and then get in trouble. He did what he felt was best for his Soldiers to keep them alive. I am sure our enemies laughed when they heard he got in trouble for that. But as Americans, we should have higher ideals. Was his Article 15 an act of PC? I am not sure. But it does seem like there are some Soldiers who are alive today because of what he did.
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I agree with Lt.Col. West. A decorated Soldier getting Article 15 for "torture" for crying out loud, not to mention the 2 Soldiers who also received NJP for their part(s) in the interrogation of the prisoner (beating the guy up). It doesn't matter that what they did is no different than techniques (probably) used by other government agencies (think FBI and CIA), but the main difference it seems is that our military is supposed to be all rainbows and unicorns so that we don't "offend" anyone. I can't speak for anyone else, but I for one am definitely glad I am no longer active duty!
I agree with Lt.Col. West. A decorated Soldier getting Article 15 for "torture" for crying out loud, not to mention the 2 Soldiers who also received NJP for their part(s) in the interrogation of the prisoner (beating the guy up). It doesn't matter that what they did is no different than techniques (probably) used by other government agencies (think FBI and CIA), but the main difference it seems is that our military is supposed to be all rainbows and unicorns so that we don't "offend" anyone. I can't speak for anyone else, but I for one am definitely glad I am no longer active duty!
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
PO1 John Miller, agreed--I would not survive in the military that has been developing since 2008 (the year I pulled 'the pin' and requested Ret-2 status). I saw the pee writing on the wall and decided not to jeopardize Ret-1.
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