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1SG Signal Support Systems Specialist
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With an OTH to boot.
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MSG Intermediate Care Technician
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I'm guessing some would consider the OTH generous.
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SGT English/Language Arts Teacher
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MSG (Join to see) - Myself included.
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SGT English/Language Arts Teacher
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Why anything other than a dishonorable discharge? The thought that this guy can get a possible upgrade in a few years and get some veteran benefits bothers me.
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SPC Robert Conway - aside from the fact that hate speech is protected by the first amendment, you neglected to answer the question.

So I’ll ask it again, “Do you think a more serious punishment like dishonorable discharge was warranted?

(*im not defending this kid’s speech. Simply, his actions didn’t warrant any worse punishment than he received)
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SGT (Join to see) - Article 134-53, Article 134-28 and Article 117, define certain acts that can be used to court martial for using provoking language, indecent language, and making threats which "under the circumstances, the conduct of the accused was to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces or was of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces." To maintain good order and discipline means that hate speech is not protected in the military service and it DOES warrant a dishonorable discharge. Capt Gregory Prickett
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SGT Retired
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SGT (Join to see) - while I’m aware that UCMJ might not protect hate speech, the first amendment does. As the other gentleman stated that the Marines speech has to be driven back under a rock...well it doesn’t. We can disagree with it all day, but the first amendment protects unpopular speech. I’m a big fan of not crushing the minority. (Even if I find the minority despicable).

That stated, dishonorable discharges are generally reserved for serious crimes. While this kid was stupid, he was hardly a serious criminal. He got what he deserved.

If you feel he deserved the same discharge as a murderer or rapist, please explain the rationale as to why.
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SPC Robert Conway
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SGT (Join to see) I will answer it again, absolutely.
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
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Good. There's no place in our military for that
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