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Patricia Overmeyer
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We have the National Guard protecting testing kits and we have the "militia" in Michigan pushing into the State House while armed to demand their rights to stop the stay at home orders. Maybe Maryland can send a few extra test kits to Michigan. But which is crazier?
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MAJ James Woods
MAJ James Woods
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Or Pence and Kushner could send test kits to Michigan since Pence made an implication that he’s tested regularly.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
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Having worked enough pandemics at patient bedsides and done graduate work on emergency and disaster management, I can say without a doubt COVID-19 is not as bad as it is being played out if people have time to play politics. Testing lottie dottie everybody is a farce. Do they culture you when put on antibiotics for an upper respiratory infection for a week? No, people just get on the meds. All real treatment for COVID-19 is symptom treatment, tests coming back negative or positive is not going to change that. Yes there is a new anti-viral that is being ramped up but they will not wait for tests results, if they think you have COVID-19, they will put you on it. All mass testing is going to do is add the walking well to the positive cases, artificially lowering the mortality compared to diseases of similar nature. They need to be testing for the flu at the sometime if they want a true comparison but they are not. Come fall, COVID-19 is going to have a much lower rate of mortality than the flu because of all those that feel entitled to their test. Next time something ugly comes around and 26million need laid off for our protection, people are going to give a rowdy fU%K you.
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SFC Herve Abrams
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How many of the pandemics you worked resulted in over 50,000 U.S. deaths only halfway through the cycle with such widespread preventive measures in place?
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MAJ Byron Oyler
MAJ Byron Oyler
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SFC Herve Abrams - None of the previous pandemics had a reported 20% increased payment for Medicaid patients and reported three times the funding for patients placed on ventilators. When it is all said and done with time for proper peer reviewed literature to hit the streets, it is my professional opinion that once we have good antibody testing we will find this virus has been out for far longer than we knew. Yes that will raise the deaths however the more walking well that is tested, the lower the mortality rate is going to be. No one is panic testing for the flu and we never do and by not counting the walking well in flu numbers but counting them in COVID we are going to see a huge decrease in the mortality rate with COVID in the coming months. The number we need to be looking at is the mortality rate, not how many thousands have died out of a 5 billion world population. Did you know that anyone that has ever had strep throat has had the same bacteria that causes the flesh eating disease? Some people have this bacteria as natural flora living on their skin and many do not get sick. This fear factor needs to be based off of mortality numbers as this is the best glimpse to see how deadly something is.
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SFC Herve Abrams
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MAJ Byron Oyler, I agree data comparisons must account for differences in methodology and the variance of the factors used I’d calculations, such as the increased rate of testing for COVID-19 antibodies as compared to testing for flu antibodies.
Another factor that does get enough attention is time span. The amount of COVID-19 deaths that have occurred thus far took place in a much shorter time span than the typical flu season. As you pointed out, comparisons will only be valid when accounting and adjusting for all factors.
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MAJ James Woods
MAJ James Woods
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Whoa. Lets walk the dog here. The rates we’re seeing now is result of mandated risk mitigation. The alternative: allow normal infection rates with no mitigation and no treatment protocols and just hope fatality numbers in a three month period was still around the 60k we have now. Each state reacting differently without a real coordinated effort by federal government helped exacerbate the situation.
You’re right we’re treating symptoms across the country without testing the patient. We’re also seeing individuals receiving neither.
As for increasing medical costs, thank “for profit” healthcare in this country. During a pandemic, yep Capitalism wins again. The same kind of capitalism that has created the unemployment numbers we see cause businesses rather layoff workers than find a work around with government. A National two week furlough for non essential workers in late Jan. / early Feb. ICW focused testing at ports of entry and inbound foreign travel restrictions in hindsight could’ve voted the mess we’re in 5 months later. It’s just a thought.
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Capt Dwayne Conyers
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Oh, the pain...
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