Posted on Jun 30, 2016
Navy report: Failure at every level for US ships captured by Iran
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"...Military investigators released Thursday found that the 10 sailors captured by Iranians in January suffered from "failed leadership" at all levels on a mission that was plagued by mistakes from beginning to end...crews were poorly prepared, their boats not properly maintained, communication almost entirely lacking, and their conduct after being captured by the Iranians wasn't up to military standards...And after they were captured and held for 24 hours, more mistakes were made."
Navy report: Failure at every level for US ships captured by Iran
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SCPO Joshua I
CAPT (Join to see) - The fact that it would take multiple failures of all levels of leadership to create a situation like this. It's axiomatic.
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Ok. I took your post to mean that you were not surprised that it happened. I agree that it is self-evident that it could only happen due to failures on multiple levels. The Swiss cheese effect, if you will.
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Maybe now we can get back to standards and weeding out the weak military personel. This is not a game. I know people join because they have no other option or they want money for school or they saw the commercial and heard the music playing and they got all misty eyed or their parents were in the military...but this is a serious commitment. There is a chance you could die or get serious injured while serving. Our military needs to get it through these members heads that this is not a game at all. Train to standard and take it seriously or get out. No more fucking around and wasting tax payers dollars.
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I don't think anyone with even basic understanding of military operations would've guessed any other possible outcome the real question is twofold specifically what was identified and what will be done about it .
With luck a single midgrade officer will be found as a scapegoat and then the rest of the issues forgotten about
With luck a single midgrade officer will be found as a scapegoat and then the rest of the issues forgotten about
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SGM Erik Marquez
SCPO Joshua I - Senior chief....what do you think? Commander was thinking "the Boss said go, Im not making the call to turn this off" and then on down the chain that same thought went?
The Navy seems to fire Commanders at the drop of a hat "loss of confidence" I wonder if that leaves a commander with "Well lets see If I fail the mission Im fired, if I dont do the mission Im fired, screw it what to I have to lose by sending them" mentality?
The Navy seems to fire Commanders at the drop of a hat "loss of confidence" I wonder if that leaves a commander with "Well lets see If I fail the mission Im fired, if I dont do the mission Im fired, screw it what to I have to lose by sending them" mentality?
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SGM Erik Marquez - No, that does not leave commanders with that mentality. This was a failure on multiple levels unquestionably. In my experience the low threshold for failure has had the opposite effect of more over-reporting than under-reporting, generally speaking.
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