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CPT Jack Durish
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"Neoliberalism"? That would imply that "liberals" are trying something new when, in fact, they just keep trying things that have already failed countless times. I use the quotes because I am offended by the misuse of "liberal". I am a Liberal - I love liberty. I'll fight for liberty. The Left has misused the appellation over the years to associate themselves with their betters, liberty loving patriots who came before them when, in fact, these "liberals" are opposed to liberty. Dating from the Administration of Woodrow Wilson, these progressives have championed a strong Executive Branch to override the powers of the people as exercised in the People's House - Congress. They think they know better than the common herd - We the People - and that their special knowledge outranks our common sense.
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CPO Bravo, 1st Platoon Alpo
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Not really. It refers mainly to free market economics
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CPT Jack Durish
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CPO (Join to see) - What refers to free market economies?
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PFC Al Sethre
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I believe the terms "neoliberal" and "libertarian" are often interchanged even though they are not quite the same. And then you have libertarian beliefs versus the actual Libertarian Party beliefs. Now I hear that HRC is actually considered the most Neo-liberal candidate? I think alot has been getting lost in translation.
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SFC Steven Harvey
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As a libertarian I can say the vast majority of that article was completely false. There are far too many issues to address but blaming the 2008 crash on libertarians is asinine.

The only people who spoke up about the housing bubble in 2002-2007 were libertarians and Austrian economists.

He offshoring of wealth and power is asinine because that's what the highest corporate tax rate in the world will make you do, it's also what happens when you have a country that wants to tax the wealthy 90% of their income. Raise minimum wage to 15 dollars an hour when 85% of the country is employed by SBAs who employ 10 or less people thinking that they can afford it.

Blaming libertarians for the slow collapse of public health and education is fascinating to me. You're going to blame libertarians for that when there is a clear downward trend in education ever since the Dept of Education was founded and government started getting into the States business. Or the huge cost of education sky rocketing after the government backed every single loan given out by banks required by law which again is clearly verifiable by looking at statistics.

Healthcare costs going up is a direct result of government intervention. There is no better example that looking at the ACA, I could go back and list everything out but I'm on mobile and needed to respond.

This article reeks of heavy liberal bias and the fact is was posted in the Economics section of the Guardian is hilarious. The author seriously says Europe is a neoliberal empire and Britian is the most lonely city because of libertarians? Really?

The EU and Britian have had nothing BUT liberal policies the last decade and a half. If you want too look at where this author wants to go look at Greece and France here soon. Just look at Frances economic policies and their unemployement.

There has not been a real libertarian market/society since Sweden in the mid 1850s-1940/1950s when they went full on liberal.

It's fascinating because Sweden was the fastest growing economy until 1950 when they slammed on the breaks and decided everyone is entitled to other people's money.
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PFC Al Sethre
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I'm a little confused why you are interchanging "neoliberal" with "libertarian", as you can have left wing and right wing libertarianism, plus the added confusion of the actual Libertarian Party. I've added a graphic to help differentiate:
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SFC Steven Harvey
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He named Mises, Hayek and Friedman as founders. He was basically attacking libertarians as much as someone bashing conservatives by referencing Regan or bashing liberals by referencing FDR.

Your graph is just off. You literally can't be a Libertarian Socialist. Each philosophy has various groups but that's not one of them.

The very core of libertarianism is: Peace, Tolerance, Limited Government, Individualism and Free Markets.

This article directly attacks at least 3 of those core beliefs. So yes, he is directly attacking libertarians and had no idea what he is talking about.
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SFC Steven Harvey
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This is something I knew would come up after the article was posted.

Read this if you want an honest rebuttal to whatever this author was trying to assert.

http://fee.org/articles/neoliberalism-the-left-s-eternal-boogeyman/
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