Posted on Jun 1, 2016
New Army policy will force out senior NCOs, improve mid-grade promotions
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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
CSM Charles Hayden I have never seen it, I know its some public law out there and regulation lurking.
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SMSgt Roy Dowdy
Currently the recent 2017 NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act) submitted to the White House has included measures to reduce the Flag Officer Billets by 3%, however the White House has threatened to veto it on grounds of acquisition reform that isn't palatable to Pentagon's tastes! That being said, with retirement overhaul and increasing RIF (Reduction in Force) policies of enlisted and CGO's ongoing, which are low hanging fruit for both Pentagon and Congress, it's simply easier to reduce the number of career rank and file in order to avoid paying retirement funding, and supplement them with offering bonuses to new applicants in the short term!
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At least the Army is being fairly reasonable about it. However, its tough for those SNCO's who don't want to get out.
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SFC Kenneth Myers,
Obviously not speaking as a SNCO here...
I get your point regarding life after the Army, but transition sucks. Even after just shy of six years in, it was terrible transitioning. I couldn't agree more that go-getters are certainly able to get out there and wreck face getting a fantastic job, but I think there is the institutionalized (in this case in a good way I feel) desire to stay where you're still a part of something bigger than yourself, and larger than life. I can't even imagine what it would be like for a CSM, 1SG, MSG, SFC, who have been in their entire adult working lives, to just leave it. So, I commiserate with those (who's experience I do not share: lowest of the low NCO's here) who desire to keep working at the top of their game!
Best to all, and a Happy New Year.
Obviously not speaking as a SNCO here...
I get your point regarding life after the Army, but transition sucks. Even after just shy of six years in, it was terrible transitioning. I couldn't agree more that go-getters are certainly able to get out there and wreck face getting a fantastic job, but I think there is the institutionalized (in this case in a good way I feel) desire to stay where you're still a part of something bigger than yourself, and larger than life. I can't even imagine what it would be like for a CSM, 1SG, MSG, SFC, who have been in their entire adult working lives, to just leave it. So, I commiserate with those (who's experience I do not share: lowest of the low NCO's here) who desire to keep working at the top of their game!
Best to all, and a Happy New Year.
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MSG Robert Conrad
Everyone should be planning for their retirement, as soon as they complete initial training. I have never understood the folks that are caught flat footed by the QRP, MED Board, etc. The warning signs are always right in front of you. Most times there is a record of counseling that identifies the reason you are being eliminated for, long before it actually occurs.
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CW4 Craig Urban
I should have got out after 20 as a CW3 and opened a business. I would be a multi millionaire if I had.
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CPL McDonnell,
My career is likely not "typical"; I spent just shy of 7 years on AD, had a 39 month break in service, then join the USAR and served as a TPU Soldier for 10 years, during which I deployed once. I then went AGR in 2010, and I'll be retirement eligible in less than 3 years.
Since I was out of the Army for over 3 years, and 10 as a reservist, I both attained a college degree AND built a successful career as a Diesel Mechanic in that time. My feelings *might* be different if I had spent my entire career on AD with no break in service, as I agree with your sentiment about becoming "institutionalized".
So, thank you for your comment, and this is to anyone reading this: if you are not always preparing yourself for something new, you are doing yourself a disservice. NEVER put all your eggs in one basket.
Hope everyone has a safe and Happy Holiday season!
CPL McDonnell,
My career is likely not "typical"; I spent just shy of 7 years on AD, had a 39 month break in service, then join the USAR and served as a TPU Soldier for 10 years, during which I deployed once. I then went AGR in 2010, and I'll be retirement eligible in less than 3 years.
Since I was out of the Army for over 3 years, and 10 as a reservist, I both attained a college degree AND built a successful career as a Diesel Mechanic in that time. My feelings *might* be different if I had spent my entire career on AD with no break in service, as I agree with your sentiment about becoming "institutionalized".
So, thank you for your comment, and this is to anyone reading this: if you are not always preparing yourself for something new, you are doing yourself a disservice. NEVER put all your eggs in one basket.
Hope everyone has a safe and Happy Holiday season!
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Thanks for letting us know SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL that about 3,000 senior noncommissioned officers will soon leave the Army under new retention rules designed to boost promotion opportunities for mid-grade soldiers.
Hopefully those who are above the cut line are not critically short MOS or specialties.
Hopefully those who are above the cut line are not critically short MOS or specialties.
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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
LTC Stephen F. you can say that again, it makes me think of the experience and wisdom, however the Army is going technical nowadays.
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