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I'd be far more worried about North Korea deciding to do something about them. Russia derives a lot of benefit from the existence of those cables -- North Korea, not so much.
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SSgt Christopher Brose
Sgt Wayne Wood - I don't know, but even if they don't, I'm still more worried about them doing it than Russia doing it.
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I am surprised that the cables on the sea floor has not been disrupted yet. Maybe they have already found a way to tap into them. Thanks for sharing.
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And it is a bunch of hooey and fear mongering. I shared the NBCNews version of this story and so did SSgt GG-15 RET Jim Lint, and LTC Ivan Raiklin, Esq. shared the RadioFreeEurope/RadioLiberty version. Below is the comment that I made in conjunction with the three postings. -
When I posted this story, this is what I had to say:
Not to make too much of a light outlook on this subject; but the main example given is a poor way of illustrating the message.
There is an extremely valid concern in this area, but the use of 'cutting' Crimea off in this manner is a ludicrous example.
This cable is the 'Kerch Strait Cable', one endpoint is in Russia the other in Ukraine (Crimea); and the cable is owned by a Russian telecommunications provider - Rostelecom. Do you think that the Russian Government/Military cut their own cable? Possible, but highly doubtful.
https://www.submarinecablemap.com/#/submarine-cable/kerch-strait-cable
I then went on to add the following information:
For those interested, the following website has excellent information on submarine cables.
https://www.submarinecablemap.com/
The parent site is an excellent resource for telecommunication intelligence analyst of all stripes;
https://www.telegeography.com/index.html
And if you want information about internet hubs, etc., look no further than their Internet Exchange Map; https://www.telegeography.com/telecom-resources/internet-exchange-map/index.html
Compare the information that I have provided from public sources and the statements by the British MoD spokesperson and come to your own conclusion about fear mongering or we could even go further and question the 'quality of service' provided by the British intelligence community and by extension the US intelligence community.
In the one discussion string Capt Jeff S., SPC Robert Coventry, and Col Joseph Lenertz, all three make some excellent points about this story.
I would also advise that everyone checkout the following Wikipedia articles:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_submarine_cable_disruption
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_submarine_cable_disruption
When I posted this story, this is what I had to say:
Not to make too much of a light outlook on this subject; but the main example given is a poor way of illustrating the message.
There is an extremely valid concern in this area, but the use of 'cutting' Crimea off in this manner is a ludicrous example.
This cable is the 'Kerch Strait Cable', one endpoint is in Russia the other in Ukraine (Crimea); and the cable is owned by a Russian telecommunications provider - Rostelecom. Do you think that the Russian Government/Military cut their own cable? Possible, but highly doubtful.
https://www.submarinecablemap.com/#/submarine-cable/kerch-strait-cable
I then went on to add the following information:
For those interested, the following website has excellent information on submarine cables.
https://www.submarinecablemap.com/
The parent site is an excellent resource for telecommunication intelligence analyst of all stripes;
https://www.telegeography.com/index.html
And if you want information about internet hubs, etc., look no further than their Internet Exchange Map; https://www.telegeography.com/telecom-resources/internet-exchange-map/index.html
Compare the information that I have provided from public sources and the statements by the British MoD spokesperson and come to your own conclusion about fear mongering or we could even go further and question the 'quality of service' provided by the British intelligence community and by extension the US intelligence community.
In the one discussion string Capt Jeff S., SPC Robert Coventry, and Col Joseph Lenertz, all three make some excellent points about this story.
I would also advise that everyone checkout the following Wikipedia articles:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_submarine_cable_disruption
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_submarine_cable_disruption
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Sgt Wayne Wood
Take a chill pill... then send a nasty-gram to the BBC.
I just posted the story, i make no claims to the feasibility or probability.
Just found it interesting...
I just posted the story, i make no claims to the feasibility or probability.
Just found it interesting...
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SSG Robert Webster
Sgt Wayne Wood - The comment was not to rag on you. It was and is meant to show how deceitful and ignorant that some open intelligence statements and stories can be.
Really though, a nasty-gram should be sent to Robert Mueller, Special Counsel, and anyone related to the Russian Interference of the 2016 Election investigations both political, think tank, or news organization, because of their spin-doctoring of 'crap' like this. Our intelligence agencies also need to take a hit on this.
I was going to make a comment about logic and common sense, but it would be wasted on most of the readers.
Thanks, Wayne.
Really though, a nasty-gram should be sent to Robert Mueller, Special Counsel, and anyone related to the Russian Interference of the 2016 Election investigations both political, think tank, or news organization, because of their spin-doctoring of 'crap' like this. Our intelligence agencies also need to take a hit on this.
I was going to make a comment about logic and common sense, but it would be wasted on most of the readers.
Thanks, Wayne.
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