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PO1 Michael Fullmer
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NO ONE has won in Afghanistan, not the Russians, not past history, so why do we think e can win? The people of "stanland" don't care. Opium & corruption are the order of the day, and so long as the various clans refuses to ACTUALLY work together against whomever, loosing our young men & women over there seems to be a senseless waste. Hope I'm not missing the point here.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
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So your suggestion/assertion I gather is to give up? Crime will never be defeated either why bother fighting that too? Had the previous President listened to the experts on the field in Afghanistan we might have advanced the progress 3+ years.

The clans are a problem yes, but this is mostly driven by the elder's mentalities. The youth of Afghanistan, specifically the young officers and NCOs took to the US influence very well. That's not to say they all fall into the same influence, but we were in fact making progress and I witnessed it first hand. The former President pulled the rug from under our feet and this is why we're here.
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PO3 Donald Murphy
PO3 Donald Murphy
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I beg to differ. As long as Islam remains intact as a belief system and as long as we are loathe to force its removal akin to the way we force-ably retrained the nazi-ism out of Germans post 1945, then sadly, our "success" cannot be measured.

Any farmer knows that you must remove a weed by the root to fully kill it. Just pulling the leaves gives an instant gratification, but the weed is invariably back in short time.
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SFC Counterintelligence (CI) Agent
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Sunk Cost Fallacy.

FIN!
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LTC Psychological Operations Officer
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I'd like to hear what secretary Mattis ' definition of winning in Afghanistan is. Unfortunately, I think his endstate may look more like a permanent occupation rather than a defeat the bad guys and leave solution. Do we really want our grandkids doing tours in AG and getting killed and maimed by IEDs 20years from now? With an accompanying US budget deficit that crushes our economy as we try and pay for that presence?
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MCPO Roger Collins
MCPO Roger Collins
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Yes, I would like to see what the strategy and expected outcome would look like. We know what it looks like when you pull out before the job is done.
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