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CPT Jack Durish
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Women serving in front line combat roles, especially rigorous special operations will succeed until they don't. But the same can be said for men, can't it? The truth is that the mission of defending American is undergoing radical changes. While the Navy steams the ocean blue launching jets in search of a high tech version of WWII, terrorists are launching a new kind of warfare. While the Air Force patrols the skies insuring the sovereign borders of the nation, terrorists are seeping through our porous borders sometimes hidden among refugees, sometime in plain sight with valid visas. While our Army maneuvers with heavy tanks and artillery, terrorists plant IEDs and gun down civilians in schools, places of business, and even on military bases. It seems we need to make some changes, doesn't it? I can't help adding my amusement at the report of Kurdish women terrorizing terrorists who fear being killed by a woman. If true, we should send them a legion of our own. To be honest, I will admit that I was skeptical of the initial announcement by the Secretary of Defense just as I am skeptical of any decision by this Administration. However, I must remember that when you give an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of decisions to make, they're bound to get at least one right. We'll just have to wait for the proof of this one, as we used to say, in the pudding...
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
SSgt Boyd Herrst
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I like your comment and I hope some person don't take "give an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of decisions to make an they will eventually get one right" the wrong way and say you were equating women to monkeys..
There's bound to be one out there
On RP somewhere...(I hope not)
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I am reminded of a friend in the CB's in Iraq, who's team was commanded by a woman Captain, who while leading her team on a final patrol without ammo, 'lost it' while coming under attack while returning to Base. Result, several dead & wounded but receiving a commendation !
On the other hand my personal observation in AFG of some very fine women soldiers who patrolled with the men were assets to their team !
Hard choices !!!
But, I am reminded of early tests when obama first issued this order. training was imposed on the women, NONE of them met the Standard imposed upon the male operators ! Which 'lie' are 'we' to believe ???
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COL Ted Mc
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs - Mikel; "Opening the positions to the qualified" is not the same thing as "filling the positions with the unqualified" and it is the latter that most of the people argue against.

The article argues for "equality of opportunity" (in my opinion a "Good Thing") and NOT for "equality of outcome" (in my opinion a "Bad Thing")

The arguments both for and against separate and co-ed training regimes are physiologically and psychologically sound as different training regimes are required to bring male and female musculature up to the same standard. Because of that, I can see where segregated "preliminary" courses would be of benefit. I can also see where integrated "qualification" courses would be of benefit - especially when both the males and the females knew that they were (relatively) evenly matched physically.

Not only is there no need for a (metaphorical) "Rangerette" tab but I've never known any woman who would be satisfied with one (if they wanted it at all).
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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COL Ted Mc You make a valid points
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Cpl Kevin Partlow
Cpl Kevin Partlow
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COL Ted Mc, Agreed that the desire for a particular outcome mustn't outweigh the need for sufficient means to reach said outcome. Interesting concept utilizing a unique training program for females that will help enable them to achieve the standard qualifications in place. Thanks for posting a possible solution to an implementation problem.
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SSG Robert Perrotto
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oh - and the APFT requirements should be the same regardless of Gender.
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