Posted on Mar 26, 2018
The ‘March for Our Lives’ Moral Panic | National Review
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I agree with the article. Shouting rage and vilifying other's ideas may make you feel better, but moving to actual solutions requires a real discussion where all ideas are included. And the Maryland school shooting, along with the effectiveness shown by an in-school resource officer, needs to be a part of the discussion.
The ‘March for Our Lives’ Moral Panic | National Review
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The common flaw I find in this, as in most other "anti-gun" movements, is the failure to properly define the problem to be solved. "We want to be safe in our schools" as the goal, has been conflated with "We need more gun control laws."
More "gun control laws" is precisely what has endangered their safety, by creating an imaginary "gun free" school environment that attracts the violent, unstable, and evil people who wish to slaughter the innocent. These children have failed to see exactly how the "Gun Free School Zone Act" , which promised them safety, gave safety only to the mass-murderer, who was assured he would have the only gun within 1,000 feet of the school zone. He could rest assured that there would be no armed resistance until there was a SWAT response --- a delay measured in minutes, but more properly measured by the number of additional lives lost.
It is only armed resistance that will end the bloodbath, with the suicide, surrender, or (as was the case in Parkland) the escape of the killer.
It is incredible that the gun-haters have managed to hoodwink so many for so long. They create a gun control law that has the perverse effect of causing an outbreak of school mass-murders, then instead of admitting their error (if it was not their intended goal to create a law that would provide involuntary martyrs for their cause) accuse "gun nuts", "selfish gun-owners", or "the NRA" for the blood that is on their hands alone.
More "gun control laws" is precisely what has endangered their safety, by creating an imaginary "gun free" school environment that attracts the violent, unstable, and evil people who wish to slaughter the innocent. These children have failed to see exactly how the "Gun Free School Zone Act" , which promised them safety, gave safety only to the mass-murderer, who was assured he would have the only gun within 1,000 feet of the school zone. He could rest assured that there would be no armed resistance until there was a SWAT response --- a delay measured in minutes, but more properly measured by the number of additional lives lost.
It is only armed resistance that will end the bloodbath, with the suicide, surrender, or (as was the case in Parkland) the escape of the killer.
It is incredible that the gun-haters have managed to hoodwink so many for so long. They create a gun control law that has the perverse effect of causing an outbreak of school mass-murders, then instead of admitting their error (if it was not their intended goal to create a law that would provide involuntary martyrs for their cause) accuse "gun nuts", "selfish gun-owners", or "the NRA" for the blood that is on their hands alone.
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CW3 Harvey K.
SSgt Christopher Brose - In fairness, the term "manifesto" was mine. The original term used was "proposed changes".
My sympathies to you for enduring the pain of reading all nine such “proposals”. That first sentence oozed so much ignorance of the 2nd Amendment, its meaning and purpose, that I was shaking my head in disbelief. I must assume none of the students ever heard of the Miller (1939) SCOTUS decision.
These journalist students who have collaborated in this effort to compile these “changes” appear to be throughly indoctrinated in the “progressive” mind-set of the current professionals. It does not bode well for the future of our country to envision them taking their place in the Fourth Estate.
Since I haven't joined Twitter, I will let the current criticism of his "Tweet" stand in that venue. I can only repeat my disappointment in finding Prof. Haidt in full support of those nine “changes”. The fact that he finds those nine deflections from the original problem of stopping mass-murder in our schools to be “each supported with concise reasoning”, is an indictment of his ability to think clearly and analytically.
My sympathies to you for enduring the pain of reading all nine such “proposals”. That first sentence oozed so much ignorance of the 2nd Amendment, its meaning and purpose, that I was shaking my head in disbelief. I must assume none of the students ever heard of the Miller (1939) SCOTUS decision.
These journalist students who have collaborated in this effort to compile these “changes” appear to be throughly indoctrinated in the “progressive” mind-set of the current professionals. It does not bode well for the future of our country to envision them taking their place in the Fourth Estate.
Since I haven't joined Twitter, I will let the current criticism of his "Tweet" stand in that venue. I can only repeat my disappointment in finding Prof. Haidt in full support of those nine “changes”. The fact that he finds those nine deflections from the original problem of stopping mass-murder in our schools to be “each supported with concise reasoning”, is an indictment of his ability to think clearly and analytically.
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SSgt Christopher Brose
CW3 Harvey K. - You may have used the term "manifesto" but it is the lead in the Guardian story.
"Parkland students guest edit Guardian US
Our manifesto to fix America's gun laws"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2018/mar/23/parkland-students-manifesto-americas-gun-laws
"Parkland students guest edit Guardian US
Our manifesto to fix America's gun laws"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2018/mar/23/parkland-students-manifesto-americas-gun-laws
Parkland students: our manifesto to change America's gun laws | Editorial staff of the Eagle Eye
After the massacre at our high school, our lives have changed forever – so we’re proposing these changes to halt mass shootings
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CW3 Harvey K.
SSgt Christopher Brose - O K, it's their bad. I hadn't noticed their use of the term, only "proposed changes" in the body of their statement.
But enough of the minor point of the diction of the "Eagle Eye" journalists. What about Prof. Haidt and his evaluation of their puerile "nine changes" as “each supported with concise reasoning”?
But enough of the minor point of the diction of the "Eagle Eye" journalists. What about Prof. Haidt and his evaluation of their puerile "nine changes" as “each supported with concise reasoning”?
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SSgt Christopher Brose
CW3 Harvey K. - I'm in full agreement with you. He really should know better. If he doesn't, it's either because he hasn't been exposed to the counter-arguments, or because his capacity for rational thought has become subordinate to his emotions on those points.
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The approach by the organizers was typical in that it was misguided, combative and unlikely to generate any support from anyone that has even a slightly different view of violence in schools.
A couple of the liners in the article I take issue with are:
"the event was planned and led by students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School who are passionate advocates of gun control". This event was not led by them in the sense that they really organized it and managed it. They were props for a number of leftists organizations, celebrities, politicians and the like. They were willing props but props none-the-less. They get their moment in the sun, their victim status on full display for all to see and the left gets what they think is a sympathetic victim set to push their cause(s). That didn't really happen. They overplayed their hand (as usual) and have made enemies (using their own words) of large swaths of the population of this country. No one trying to make their organization successful would have allowed this to go on as it did.
"It is universally acknowledged in America that the death of an innocent person is a tragedy worth our attention". Any death is a tragedy (the closer you are to it the larger tragedy it is) but if we gave each death our attention we could do little else. That is just an operating reality. What we owe to these victims is honest approach to reduce or eliminate the causes of the deaths. We cannot even agree on the causes so we have zero chance of getting to real solutions.
A couple of the liners in the article I take issue with are:
"the event was planned and led by students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School who are passionate advocates of gun control". This event was not led by them in the sense that they really organized it and managed it. They were props for a number of leftists organizations, celebrities, politicians and the like. They were willing props but props none-the-less. They get their moment in the sun, their victim status on full display for all to see and the left gets what they think is a sympathetic victim set to push their cause(s). That didn't really happen. They overplayed their hand (as usual) and have made enemies (using their own words) of large swaths of the population of this country. No one trying to make their organization successful would have allowed this to go on as it did.
"It is universally acknowledged in America that the death of an innocent person is a tragedy worth our attention". Any death is a tragedy (the closer you are to it the larger tragedy it is) but if we gave each death our attention we could do little else. That is just an operating reality. What we owe to these victims is honest approach to reduce or eliminate the causes of the deaths. We cannot even agree on the causes so we have zero chance of getting to real solutions.
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