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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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I am so sick and tired of hearing we can't normalize relations with Cuba because of the government's record on human rights. Can someone tell me what that garbage reason means? We conduct daily business transactions with countries that have far worse records on human rights. Heck, our president and his family manufacture products in China which isn't exactly known for standing up for human rights. Vietnam, Miramar, Bangladesh and the Philippines are other examples where we have normalized relations yet their records on human rights is dismal. We lived through Soviet bases and troops on Cuba once so you would think we would do everything in our power to keep Russia from gaining a foothold there.
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MSgt Michael Bischoff
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This is one area lobbyist have gotten congress by the nether regions.
Then will will blame Obama for them allowing Russia to build a base there.
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SN Greg Wright
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I'm actually with you on this one. Trump's got this wrong. Cuba can't hurt us anymore. He's pandering to the Cuban population in Florida (who don't want the sanctions lifted, for some reason.)
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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Ok, so China, Vietnam, Philippines, et al don't imprison dissidents, squelch real freedom and are wonderful places?
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SSG Michael Hartsfield
SSG Michael Hartsfield
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Cpl Jeff N. - I agree with Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen. It appears that our sense of morality gets flexible when we talk about Cuba. The US still does business with Saudi Arabia but get fuzzy about their human rights record for the oil they produce.
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Cpl Jeff N.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen - Those other countries aren't 90 miles from our shores and did not house Soviet bases from which they planned to launch nuclear strikes against the US as well as foment and support other bad actors in Central and South America. The Castro's have been avowed enemies of the US for decades. They are and have been a bad actor for most of their existence. Giving them status with no concessions was a strategic blunder, period.

I am not a fan of doing business with the Chinese. I still remember what they did in Korea against the US Army and Marines at the Chosin Reservoir. I also know they could control the current regime in NK but choose to let him ramble on but we were talking about Cuba, not China and Vietnam. I am not sure why you assumed I was good with them both, I am not. The Philippines has historically been a good friend of ours. They have a loose cannon at the helm now but I would not put them in the same camp as The other two.

SSG Michael Hartsfield We would not need to do business with the Saudis if we got serious about energy independence. We import about 30-35% of our oil from OPEC nations and roughly 10% from Saudi Arabia. We could find a way to replace that volume if we really wanted to do so.
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SSG Michael Hartsfield
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Cpl Jeff N. - You hit the nail on the head. If we really wanted to but we don't want to because of the money invested in Saudi Arabia and the business interests the US have there. Also, I'm a firm believer in the old adage "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer." Cuba WAS a the enemy of the US only because the Bay of Pigs flopped. Now, they have all the intimidation capacity of a cloudy day. I would hope that those of us in the US could put aside that 60+year batch of sour grapes IOT keep Russia from maintaining a base 90 miles from the US.
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