Posted on Jan 28, 2020
‘Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine’: When Russian disinformation met a Trump obsession
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Disinformation is the coin of the realm in that neck of the woods.
I can personally testify that the Ukrainians suck at it, though. I was there training them on information operations and they just couldn't believe it as I ticked off situation after situation where the Russians were taking their lunch money. It was pretty eye opening for all concerned.
Let's just say that advanced IO was not a capability that I saw the Ukrainians demonstrate competence in.
I can personally testify that the Ukrainians suck at it, though. I was there training them on information operations and they just couldn't believe it as I ticked off situation after situation where the Russians were taking their lunch money. It was pretty eye opening for all concerned.
Let's just say that advanced IO was not a capability that I saw the Ukrainians demonstrate competence in.
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1LT (Join to see) - Not my portfolio, but I imagine that they have improved over the zero to minimal capability that they had at the onset of hostilities. Having said that, they are a good decade behind the Russians and the Russian's doctrine on this is vastly superior to the way the Ukrainians can react. It is a checkers vs chess situation there.
Their IO department was hot trash in 2017 and 18 when I was there. The discomfort in their cadre as I went through my vignettes during classroom instruction and PEs was palpable.
SFC Thomas Foreman, Russian cyber is definitely not defensive in nature. Defending against is probably their weakest facet in that domain. They tend to use their capabilities for access denial and disinformation distribution, but have pretty robust forced entry capabilities that they break out and employ pretty regularly to mess with the Baltics, Poland, and Ukraine, and less often other NATO members.
Their IO department was hot trash in 2017 and 18 when I was there. The discomfort in their cadre as I went through my vignettes during classroom instruction and PEs was palpable.
SFC Thomas Foreman, Russian cyber is definitely not defensive in nature. Defending against is probably their weakest facet in that domain. They tend to use their capabilities for access denial and disinformation distribution, but have pretty robust forced entry capabilities that they break out and employ pretty regularly to mess with the Baltics, Poland, and Ukraine, and less often other NATO members.
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1SG (Join to see) I was specifically commenting on Ukraine improving their capabilities versus Russia. If they did, it would probably be defensive in nature. Just clarifying.
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SFC Thomas Foreman - I see. I wasn't in a position to see their actual capabilities; as you might guess, that was pretty tightly held. But observing things play out in real time, whatever the Ukrainians have is definitely not agile or timely. They are babes in the woods compared to the Russians, who pretty much patented this dimension of warfare.
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1SG (Join to see) it’s the same in the spectrum field. They’re so far ahead of us with degrade/deny that we’re scrambling DoD-wide to catch up. We’re close to their capabilities offensively but our defensive posture is shite
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And yet we will still see denial of Russian involvement. Spin, divert, deny,,, the White House mantra.
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Everyone in Ukraine and Russia are busy accusing each other. I suspect that they both tried to screw up both parties in the hopes that Americans would stop believing in their own election system. We don't need any help screwing it up; we have plenty of issues of our own
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