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Col Jim Harmon
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Read the article.

This is a political issue with select politicians trying to get in the spotlight. This has nothing to do with disaster response, and everything to do with political grandstanding for camera time.

DHS stated, "this does not help the U.S. island territory due to damaged ports preventing ships from docking. The limitation is going to be port capacity to offload and transit, not vessel availability,”.

Bottom line is that until the ports are repaired, no additional shipping can be accommodated. You do not speed the recovery by crowding the ports to point of non-function. Nor does keeping a bunch of ships in the queue waiting to dock help the issue.

You control the scenario and schedule in the ships that are most critical to the response (e.g., USS Mercy; a Carrier with huge flight deck, power, and desalinization capability; and brown water Navy assets with construction equipment). The first rule in Disaster recovery is to control the response. If you don't, you will be choked to death with well meaning responders that actually slow and inhibit the response.

The recovery effort is being handled in a triage fashion with repairs to the ports first. Then bring in all the ships you can handle. Until that point, you have the cart before the horse. And grousing about cheap goods doesn't mean a damn thing when you cant get the power back on, hospital space, or fresh water because their is no room in the port that is crowded with cheap goods.
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LT Brad McInnis
LT Brad McInnis
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Considering the Governor of PR said he is getting everything they need, I would think that a couple of congress critters looking for TV time is pretty sad.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
1stSgt Nelson Kerr
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Most of the Hospitals in PR are without power and will be for a while. That is why the Comfort is needed.
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SMSgt Thor Merich
SMSgt Thor Merich
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Great response Colonel.
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CW4 Angel C.
CW4 Angel C.
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The Comfort is definitely needed. Premature babies, cancer patients, and others are being MEDEVAC'd to the mainland to prevent blindness or death respectively.
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SSgt Copyright Specialist
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Edited 7 y ago
The Law in question does not apply to Texas, Florida, New Jersey, and Oklahoma so listing them in this thread doesn't make sense. I know the article says it was waved but how many foreign ships docked at one US port and then rerouted to one of those locations to unload the last portion of their goods? My guess is pretty close to zero. The Jones Act should be done away with whether there had been a hurricane or not. The only people it helps are unions who control US mainland ports. It raises prices in all US territories and Hawaii since no ships can deliver goods directly to those locations but instead have to unload on the mainland and then reload onto US union controlled ships (which cost considerably more to operate thereby increasing the cost of the goods they carry) to transport the materials to their final non-CONUS location.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr - The Jones Act requires the ships to be US flagged, operated, and at least 75% US owned to move between US ports, not just US flagged.
I am sure there were some waivers that did help, but I looked up how many that was. Guess how many? One for Harvey and I could not find any for Irma, seems pretty close to zero to me. Even expanding to Sandy and Katrina there were very limited waivers approved. Since it is not an automatic process most of these ships choose not to go through an extra bureaucratic burden to fill out extra paperwork to get permission

My point in this thread is that the US should get rid of the Jones Act, not just create waivers during environmental emergencies. It hurts our territories and non-continental states by increasing prices. Some studies have shown that without the Act PR would not have as much public debt as they currently do. I know it is very unlikely to ever be repealed because unions still have a lot of power in politics and work to keep foreign competitors out of the market since they know they cannot compete with them price-wise.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
1stSgt Nelson Kerr
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SSgt (Join to see) - Then what is the point of not allowing a waiver? the law itself is nothing but pork from the 1920s and what makes a island less needful of shipping that a city on the mainland?
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SSG Aircraft Pneudraulics Repairer
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Well I agree the act should've been abolished a long time ago. It definitely jacks up the cost of goods on the island.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr - My point as never that PR should not be able to have foreign ships bringing them goods, it is that there should be no waivers because the law is as you said, "nothing but pork from the 1920s." It was created after WWI to protect the US shipping industry from foreign competition. It is way past time to abolish the Jones Act as all it does is increase prices for those that live in US controlled islands. Protectionist measures do not help the country in the long run. All they do is cause resentment in certain areas. Sometimes those areas are industries that do not get federal protection which result in more protectionism since they lobby to get similar federal assistance either through direct tariffs, excise taxes, or though federal subsidies. Sometimes the resentment is from foreign nations which can lead to trade wars which in turn can lead to actual military wars when the trade disputes do not get settled quick enough.
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