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PO2 Russell "Russ" Lincoln
Lt Col Charlie Brown I can understand why people might object to this line of vaccines. The Q&A sheet does answer many of the concerns that I've heard of. In addition it reveals that Covid vaccine wasn't the first to use fetal cells in production of the vaccines.
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A nurse I know, with young boys, and several nurses I know of in an organization, say the parents do not even request the inserts that come with the vaccines their children are advised to have, nor do medical folks offer them. The nurses are concerned with independent lab results indicating there are toxic pollutants found in vaccines that do not belong in them, that are not included in the ingredients list of the vaccines.
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SGT Mary G.
PO2 Russell "Russ" Lincoln - I understand. A degree in biology is required to understand some of it what is in the inserts - both vaccines and pharmaceuticals. Otherwise, "leisure" time is needed to learn more details. When do most people with young children find the time and energy to do research? Simply because people do not ask for vaccine inserts (those lengthy papers inside the box on thin paper, in small print) does not mean they should not be offered which is a concern of the nurses I mentioned. Don't know if information sheets are the same as inserts. Guessing they are not, and not as detailed.
I have always looked up information in "The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics" which provides useful basic detailed information that is understandable. What is scary about that is what medical folks and pharmacists do not mention to people, some of which may be in the inserts people do not read. As such everyone's behinds are covered, except patients - even though information could be offered from the info sheets and inserts which many will not read.<sigh>
I have always looked up information in "The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics" which provides useful basic detailed information that is understandable. What is scary about that is what medical folks and pharmacists do not mention to people, some of which may be in the inserts people do not read. As such everyone's behinds are covered, except patients - even though information could be offered from the info sheets and inserts which many will not read.<sigh>
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PO2 Russell "Russ" Lincoln
SGT Mary G. - The inserts are intended for professional healthcare personnel. That's why the VIS was developed, if you haven't seen one before they are on the CDC website listed by vaccine.
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SGT Mary G.
PO2 Russell "Russ" Lincoln - People who ask for the inserts are supposed to be given the inserts, according to the nurse I mentioned. Good to know they are available online, also. Some folks still prefer a hard copy in the hand!
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PO2 Russell "Russ" Lincoln
SGT Mary G. - For the inserts online you may need to go to either the FDA or the manufacturer's website.
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Thanks for sharing that pdf PO2 Russell "Russ" Lincoln. It was an education I needed.
However, the answers to the last three questions on page two raise obvious questions that were not asked nor answered.
I guess my question is which vaccine would I trust less - the mRNA message created by people used in the mRNA vaccines, or the mRNA that is created by our own DNA from the DNA vaccines.
Creating mRNA is something our bodies know how to do, and naturally do, no questions asked. So I would be less trusting of an mRNA message created by people, when our bodies do a fine job of creating mRNA messages, without us having to wonder why people think they can do as good a job, or a better job of creating an mRNA message that our own bodies are designed to naturally create!
However, the answers to the last three questions on page two raise obvious questions that were not asked nor answered.
I guess my question is which vaccine would I trust less - the mRNA message created by people used in the mRNA vaccines, or the mRNA that is created by our own DNA from the DNA vaccines.
Creating mRNA is something our bodies know how to do, and naturally do, no questions asked. So I would be less trusting of an mRNA message created by people, when our bodies do a fine job of creating mRNA messages, without us having to wonder why people think they can do as good a job, or a better job of creating an mRNA message that our own bodies are designed to naturally create!
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PO2 Russell "Russ" Lincoln
SGT Mary G. it's the same science. What you get in a vaccine has been proven to elicit a certain response with out you being exposed to the actual virus. That being said no vaccine is 100% affective. Just as exposure to the actual virus will not always cause you to become severely ill. The only difference is that the vaccine will not cause you to catch the disease.
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SGT Mary G.
PO2 Russell "Russ" Lincoln - Efficacy of the vaccine is not what I was commenting on. The message from mRNA whether it is people created, or mRNA created by our own DNA, is for the spike protein to be created which is intended to illicit an immune response.
However, my comment was about the last three questions in the article which were concerned with what, if any, changes are made to our own DNA. It stated the three enzymes required to do anything to our own DNA were neither part of the mRNA vaccine nor the DNA vaccine.
However, it did not make clear whether or not our own DNA must produce those enzymes so that the created mDNA can deliver the message to produce the spike protein. It seems that in the case of the DNA vaccine it must have done so.
At issue is how our own DNA responds to the already created mRNA message, since our DNA must respond to be able to create the spike protein.
At issue (i.e. what I am wondering about) is how the created mRNA in the mRNA vaccine compares to the mRNA our own DNA produces from the DNA vaccine. Basically, what are the differences in the two types of mRNA.
However, my comment was about the last three questions in the article which were concerned with what, if any, changes are made to our own DNA. It stated the three enzymes required to do anything to our own DNA were neither part of the mRNA vaccine nor the DNA vaccine.
However, it did not make clear whether or not our own DNA must produce those enzymes so that the created mDNA can deliver the message to produce the spike protein. It seems that in the case of the DNA vaccine it must have done so.
At issue is how our own DNA responds to the already created mRNA message, since our DNA must respond to be able to create the spike protein.
At issue (i.e. what I am wondering about) is how the created mRNA in the mRNA vaccine compares to the mRNA our own DNA produces from the DNA vaccine. Basically, what are the differences in the two types of mRNA.
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PO2 Russell "Russ" Lincoln
SGT Mary G. - Since the mRNA is produced in a human cell to begin with the difference between it and an mRNA made by your own cells would be negligible. They are instructions to the cell to produce a protean.
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