Posted on Feb 6, 2025
West Point disbands cadet cultural clubs after Trump's anti-DEI order
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What do you think these actions are actually teaching our aspiring young leaders??
West Point disbands cadet cultural clubs after Trump's anti-DEI order
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I heard the saying when I first joined the Army,” We all wear green, we all bleed red”. It is ironic that your first year in the military usually involves teaching you to conform, to respond as a unit.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
Someone in the chain of command does not understand the difference between cultural clubs and DEI. The executive order said nothing about taking culture out of anything, it simply is about taking privileges based on race and gender away.
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How people deal with injury and illness in different cultures was huge in my nursing education and still plays a large part in some of the care I provide today. That said, I wonder how much of anti-DEI order is understood when it comes to learning culture. To me, they are very different but are they to the person issuing this command to disband these groups? Per the article and in my opinion, COL Foster has no idea what DEI and understanding culture is. For me, what this action is teaching our aspiring you leaders is people do not understand the difference between DEI and culture. With how diverse the military is in regard to many aspects, I do not see much negative from this. My love of Asian culture and people did not come from growing up in KS it came from serving with Asians.
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They're West Point cadets. That's their culture now (and quite an illustrious institutional heritage for that matter), and having attended West Point will follow them for the rest of their careers both in and out of the military.
One of the few times I heard a solid retort out of my first commanding officer in the fleet when a Marine brought up his heritage and how he's a minority: "Corporal *******: we're Marines. We're all a minority."
One of the few times I heard a solid retort out of my first commanding officer in the fleet when a Marine brought up his heritage and how he's a minority: "Corporal *******: we're Marines. We're all a minority."
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COL (Join to see)
It's shameful, Sergeant Atwood. Shameful, mean-spirited and wrong-headed. I served 3 decades. Of course we are all one team. But imagine you just left your home in Hawaii, or Guam, or wherever, and arrived there. Yes, you are starting on a path that leads to new affinities, but you come there with your own background and culture. The Army shouldn't be making recruits forget who they are and where they come from, in this way. Rather, it has always been our way to emphasize what we all have in common, and to gain strength from the team's different skills and learned experience. Not by disregarding what strengths people bring to the table. What signal does this send from an institution that is made up of Cadets from every state and territory? These are CLUBS. Many of them have been there for decades.
Here is what USMA espouses on their public-facing website:
* The 4,400 members of the Corps of Cadets represent every state in the U.S. and several foreign countries. About 1,200 new cadets enter the Academy on Reception Day each year (about July 1).
*Moral-ethical development occurs throughout the formal programs as well as a host of activities and experiences available at the military academy.
* Over 100 extracurricular activities are available, including religious, hobby, and sports clubs.
* Ever mindful of its rich heritage, West Point continues to prepare its graduates to serve as commissioned leaders of character in America 's 21st Century Army.
Here is what USMA espouses on their public-facing website:
* The 4,400 members of the Corps of Cadets represent every state in the U.S. and several foreign countries. About 1,200 new cadets enter the Academy on Reception Day each year (about July 1).
*Moral-ethical development occurs throughout the formal programs as well as a host of activities and experiences available at the military academy.
* Over 100 extracurricular activities are available, including religious, hobby, and sports clubs.
* Ever mindful of its rich heritage, West Point continues to prepare its graduates to serve as commissioned leaders of character in America 's 21st Century Army.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
COL (Join to see) - It is pretty simple Sir, someone in the Army chain of command does not understand the difference between DEI and cultural education. Typical army knee jerk reaction with no understanding of the executive order.
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SGT Aaron Atwood
COL (Join to see) I think you missed my point as well as my CO's. Your own culture and background shouldn't necessarily supercede the Army's, Marines', etc. You can be a first generation born here in this country. You can be like me and have blood on this continent since the 1500s. Doesn't matter. Everyone goes through basic/boot camp in order to try to become a basically-trained person in their respective branch, and not everyone makes the cut. This isn't about genetic lottery or the lack thereof. This is about individual merit through one's actions.
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