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What do you think about Colin Cowherd's disparaging remarks about those who join the US Military?
Colin Cowherd, who is the host of The Herd with Colin Cowherd on ESPN radio, disparaged the U.S. military on his program last week when he said people who join the military, join because they have no other economic choices.
http://humanevents.com/2014/10/05/preston-espns-cowherd-wrong-to-trash-talk-our-military-personnel/
Colin Cowherd, who is the host of The Herd with Colin Cowherd on ESPN radio, disparaged the U.S. military on his program last week when he said people who join the military, join because they have no other economic choices.
http://humanevents.com/2014/10/05/preston-espns-cowherd-wrong-to-trash-talk-our-military-personnel/
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"For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' ``Chuck him out, the brute!''
But it's ``Saviour of 'is country,'' when the guns begin to shoot;
Yes it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
But Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool--you bet that Tommy sees!"
Honestly, I could care less what this PoS thinks, because when the fit hit the shan, WE were the ones who stood up to be counted. I didn't see him anywhere to my left or right. People join up for different reasons. Yes, some come in because they don't have better options. Some come in to pay for school. Some come in because they want adventure. Some come in for skills. Some come in because of tradition. You know what? They are ALL valid reasons. Don't bite that hand that feeds...or protects....
But it's ``Saviour of 'is country,'' when the guns begin to shoot;
Yes it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
But Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool--you bet that Tommy sees!"
Honestly, I could care less what this PoS thinks, because when the fit hit the shan, WE were the ones who stood up to be counted. I didn't see him anywhere to my left or right. People join up for different reasons. Yes, some come in because they don't have better options. Some come in to pay for school. Some come in because they want adventure. Some come in for skills. Some come in because of tradition. You know what? They are ALL valid reasons. Don't bite that hand that feeds...or protects....
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CPT (Join to see)
It's always people like Cowherd with no military service who comment on things they never experience or portray as knowledge based.
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SPC David Shaffer
I joined after 9/11. I didn't join for money since I worked a full time job from 5pm-1:30 A.M Monday through Friday and also two other part-time jobs. I also worked at my Grandfather's restaurant "Brown Shingle" and filled in at the other big restaurants in the Sauk Valley area. I could have stepped in line to take over the business. Instead I went against what my future wife wanted and joined the Army. I actually took a big pay cut because of joining but always believed that every man that was able physically and mentally should serve. My family didn't understand it because none of them ever served in the military and I can't even truthfully tell you of an aunt or uncle etc. that served for that matter. It's not always about the money. I joined because I knew how fortunate I was to live in this great country and I was willing to give my life to make sure my future children and those unable to serve would have security and the rights given to us by our Constitution. I hate that people like that think it's all about the money. How shallow of him.
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LTC Paul Labrador
Cpl Joseph Radzinski, well that sign could have easily been put up by a crusty old retired Sergeant Major. Old habits DO die hard...... ;o)
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I'm going to probably get some down-votes for this, but I DO believe some join the military to pay bills. If this were not the case, the military would not need GI Bill and college-tuition assistance. You wouldn't have soldiers re-enlisting for bonuses. It would be a non-issue.
However, his assertion: “We know most people that go into the military in this country — they need the military often to pay bills.", is not completely correct. I would not say that MOST join for financial reasons. I would say that a good percentage do.
He lumped all military members together under a blanket assertion. He did not take into account a minority of graduates and post-grads who actually would potentially make more outside of the service.
The percentage of college graduates, in comparison to the totality of our forces, is quite small. So, there is some truth to his claim. I don't feel that he was being disparaging, just misinformed.
However, his assertion: “We know most people that go into the military in this country — they need the military often to pay bills.", is not completely correct. I would not say that MOST join for financial reasons. I would say that a good percentage do.
He lumped all military members together under a blanket assertion. He did not take into account a minority of graduates and post-grads who actually would potentially make more outside of the service.
The percentage of college graduates, in comparison to the totality of our forces, is quite small. So, there is some truth to his claim. I don't feel that he was being disparaging, just misinformed.
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MAJ Keith Young, thanks.
I'll be honest, when we talk about joining the military, there are vast reasons for disagreement. Traditionally, many recruits join for honor and duty. But not every one. Many do enlist because they must escape a horrible cycle of poverty. Many enlist for the chance to go to college-a chance that they may not have otherwise had.
To conclude this, we have to remove set aside the fact that patriotism, honor, and all the "feel good" American stuff doesn't always apply. And frankly, to many, those attributes are integral to the composition of an ideal service-member.
My personal reasons for joining are because my father was in the Army and I grew up in a military lifestyle. After my parents' divorce, I found myself plunged into a world of abject poverty. I knew that I had wanted to follow in my father's footsteps, but I thought it too late. A chance opened up to live what I believed to be my dream and I took it. In hindsight, I would not be living today, much less have had the educational opportunities I have had.
But my reasons are not anyone else's. If a person joins purely because the Army slogan gives them a jolt when they hear it, or a recruit enlists because his brother is a Marine, so be it.
In any case, I am temperamental when it comes to folks who feel a sense of entitlement, regardless of their education. Book- smart ain't always street-smart.
I'll be honest, when we talk about joining the military, there are vast reasons for disagreement. Traditionally, many recruits join for honor and duty. But not every one. Many do enlist because they must escape a horrible cycle of poverty. Many enlist for the chance to go to college-a chance that they may not have otherwise had.
To conclude this, we have to remove set aside the fact that patriotism, honor, and all the "feel good" American stuff doesn't always apply. And frankly, to many, those attributes are integral to the composition of an ideal service-member.
My personal reasons for joining are because my father was in the Army and I grew up in a military lifestyle. After my parents' divorce, I found myself plunged into a world of abject poverty. I knew that I had wanted to follow in my father's footsteps, but I thought it too late. A chance opened up to live what I believed to be my dream and I took it. In hindsight, I would not be living today, much less have had the educational opportunities I have had.
But my reasons are not anyone else's. If a person joins purely because the Army slogan gives them a jolt when they hear it, or a recruit enlists because his brother is a Marine, so be it.
In any case, I am temperamental when it comes to folks who feel a sense of entitlement, regardless of their education. Book- smart ain't always street-smart.
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SPC David Shaffer
SGT (Join to see) I wrote my reply but I do believe a lot of people may join because it's their only way out. Young in this day and age don't have the patriotism that generations of the past have. My generation and the generations after are mostly what I call the "Me Generation" because often it's not basic fundamental such as honor, duty, or respect that drive them. My brother is a perfect example of the generation that thinks everything they do should be about what they get. I know many people like this and very few that served for somewhat similar reasons to mine.
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SGT (Join to see) No one should down vote you. It was an honest realistic opinion. Personally I enlisted for patriotic reasons, the feeling of accomplishment and the monetary aspects weren't bad either. But I still think Colin Cowherd is a idiot. Thanks for not holding back well done!
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i dropped out of college after 3.5 years, my career choice did'nt sit well, and i also lacked discipline, i joined for discipline, service to the country because i believe everybody should do service for the country,millitary or peace corps, and to learn a trade and yes get a pay check, 31 years later i retired, i found that the millitary was'nt just a paycheck , its pride in serving, friendships made, the fact that in most cases the only color is red, so yes i can agree with economic reasons at first but when you do 20, 30, or 40 years thats honor, duty, respect and a sense of accomplishment, also remember that opinions are like a holes, everybody has one, but they all smell the same
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