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Sgt Wayne Wood: BELIEVING IN GOD IS PARAMOUNT TO LIVING, IN MY ESTIMATION. -Sincerely, Margaret
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Cpl Lawrence Lavictoire - "One of the hardest, gut wrenching tear-jerking nerve/stress producing fact in a humans life is the inevitable death of our flesh body! You and everyone who is reading this, "will die some day"! "Fact"! The answer of accepting death with no fears is by accepting Jesus Christ as your savior! By being,"born again" you are a, "child of God", and your spirit walks with God forever! That is a fact and that is a truth! Since this is a, "Christianity discussion blog" as your brother I'm telling you, "where to go about death; you go to Jesus Christ. He Conquered death and its sting,"for us"!"
A few things:
"One of the hardest, gut wrenching tear-jerking nerve/stress producing fact in a humans life is the inevitable death of our flesh body!"
As a general statement, I can agree that to be true. As a personal statement, not so much. I'm only concerned about potential pain associated with death, rather than death itself.
"You and everyone who is reading this, will die some day! Fact"!
Irrefutable fact. Kinda common knowledge.
"The answer of accepting death with no fears is by accepting Jesus Christ as your savior!"
Obviously Subjective. First, you can't prove every christian has died without fear. Second, that may be your faith-based answer, but it is not a universal answer; If it takes you believing in one of the thousands of gods that humans have worshiped throughout history, just to not have fear of death, that is your prerogative, but not all of us require that. Third, you said it before, everyone will die some day, so regardless of whether you accept it or not, why spend extra effort trying to pretend you aren't scared; there are no additional benefits to accepting death fearlessly, so that is not a good conversion selling point. I find comfort in knowing we live and die in a natural cycles. I'm not saying I welcome death or take unnecessary risks, but the idea of everything ending in an instant doesn't not bother me, nor has risk of death kept me from pushing forward. I have sort of a "Sh*t Happens" view of death.
"By being, born again you are a, child of God, and your spirit walks with God forever! That is a fact and that is a truth"
Clearly NOT an objectively verifiable fact or truth, but a faith-based statement. I respect your right to faith, but once you enter the realm of calling your faith statements "factual" and "truth", you open the door for perspective based requests for objective proof. How can you be sure the many religions that came BEFORE christianity weren't the factual truth? Did you objectively evaluate all world religions to determine their credibility, and came to the conclusion christianity made the most sense?
"God does own us, and He also loves us beyond words can express."
I don't believe we yet have any objective proof of the existence of any god, so I'll retain ownership of myself, second to Uncle Sam. I subscribe to Temporary Agnostics, so I am always open to convincing in either direction, but their is no evidence to support the existence or non-existence. Given the state of our media consumption today, humans are clearly still not yet at a point where we can easily distinguish between fabricated stories and truth. If we were, there would not be thousands of religions, dating back thousands of years, because one would have been undeniably correct.
"It took me to age 50 to realize, why am I here. The world tell us all, it's all about you, so take hold and you control all! I will tell you, in three words why we are all here: TO SERVE GOD!"
It's unfortunate you feel you've gone 49 years without understanding of your true purpose. For me, it took me to the age of 20 to begin to realize why I was here, which correlates to the start of my doubt on religions, and when I started to think MUCH deeper and ask more detailed questions to my pastor(s), of which they could not answer honestly without trying to rationalize the many contradictions and inconsistencies in text. It took me many more years to face my cognitive dissonance and break from christianity. After "formally" leaving christianity, and religion as a whole (i'm not anti-religion), is when I understood my overall opinion of all living organisms' function on Earth; to live, procreate, and die (and all the fixings in between), just like every other living being on this planet. Very simplistic, but it drove my growth in so many different ways, and in my opinion gave me significantly more purpose than religion ever did.
Just my thoughts though; not trying to sound flippant or judgmental.
A few things:
"One of the hardest, gut wrenching tear-jerking nerve/stress producing fact in a humans life is the inevitable death of our flesh body!"
As a general statement, I can agree that to be true. As a personal statement, not so much. I'm only concerned about potential pain associated with death, rather than death itself.
"You and everyone who is reading this, will die some day! Fact"!
Irrefutable fact. Kinda common knowledge.
"The answer of accepting death with no fears is by accepting Jesus Christ as your savior!"
Obviously Subjective. First, you can't prove every christian has died without fear. Second, that may be your faith-based answer, but it is not a universal answer; If it takes you believing in one of the thousands of gods that humans have worshiped throughout history, just to not have fear of death, that is your prerogative, but not all of us require that. Third, you said it before, everyone will die some day, so regardless of whether you accept it or not, why spend extra effort trying to pretend you aren't scared; there are no additional benefits to accepting death fearlessly, so that is not a good conversion selling point. I find comfort in knowing we live and die in a natural cycles. I'm not saying I welcome death or take unnecessary risks, but the idea of everything ending in an instant doesn't not bother me, nor has risk of death kept me from pushing forward. I have sort of a "Sh*t Happens" view of death.
"By being, born again you are a, child of God, and your spirit walks with God forever! That is a fact and that is a truth"
Clearly NOT an objectively verifiable fact or truth, but a faith-based statement. I respect your right to faith, but once you enter the realm of calling your faith statements "factual" and "truth", you open the door for perspective based requests for objective proof. How can you be sure the many religions that came BEFORE christianity weren't the factual truth? Did you objectively evaluate all world religions to determine their credibility, and came to the conclusion christianity made the most sense?
"God does own us, and He also loves us beyond words can express."
I don't believe we yet have any objective proof of the existence of any god, so I'll retain ownership of myself, second to Uncle Sam. I subscribe to Temporary Agnostics, so I am always open to convincing in either direction, but their is no evidence to support the existence or non-existence. Given the state of our media consumption today, humans are clearly still not yet at a point where we can easily distinguish between fabricated stories and truth. If we were, there would not be thousands of religions, dating back thousands of years, because one would have been undeniably correct.
"It took me to age 50 to realize, why am I here. The world tell us all, it's all about you, so take hold and you control all! I will tell you, in three words why we are all here: TO SERVE GOD!"
It's unfortunate you feel you've gone 49 years without understanding of your true purpose. For me, it took me to the age of 20 to begin to realize why I was here, which correlates to the start of my doubt on religions, and when I started to think MUCH deeper and ask more detailed questions to my pastor(s), of which they could not answer honestly without trying to rationalize the many contradictions and inconsistencies in text. It took me many more years to face my cognitive dissonance and break from christianity. After "formally" leaving christianity, and religion as a whole (i'm not anti-religion), is when I understood my overall opinion of all living organisms' function on Earth; to live, procreate, and die (and all the fixings in between), just like every other living being on this planet. Very simplistic, but it drove my growth in so many different ways, and in my opinion gave me significantly more purpose than religion ever did.
Just my thoughts though; not trying to sound flippant or judgmental.
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SSgt Ryan Sylvester
So I take it all you have to add to the discussion is insults, there, Lawrence. That's cool. Have fun in your little safe space. I'm really only interested in intelligent discussions and debates.
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Cpl Lawrence Lavictoire
The main-discussion is somewhat interesting David, but if you notice the space cadets come out of the woodwork with strar-trek comments.
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