Posted on Jul 31, 2015
Why are Apache pilots getting Ranger school slots?
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Fair question, would even be valid if normally 90-100% of those attending Ranger School were headed to the regiment or light infantry duty. Never been the case. As an attack pilot, having a better understanding of TTPs of your supported ground force commander can only make you more effective in your mission set. Billed as the premier military leadership school, it would seem an obvious place to send military leaders regardless of their objective MOS!
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I would be hesitant to send a qualified aviator to a leadership course that can leave them permanently damaged. There are better courses for aviation officers.
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SGT William Howell
If there are slots I can't see how sending any support MOS would be a bad thing. I would not support giving away a slot to an actual person that will fill a Ranger slot, but if there are extra send them.
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CW3 (Join to see) - Most Army injuries happen during PT unfortunately, not mission training!
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I agree that it's not a bad thing for an aviator to have better grasp of the units mission they support to be a reason to let one go. I flew tankers which have zero combat role. Then I flew the MQ1 doing CAS. I found that a small orientation with a JTAC and actually see what they do as well as what they see in relation to what I see through a soda straw helped. Knowing what their thought process was helped my SA tremendously. Also in these venues you can explain your systems capes and limits give them understanding of why certain things happen. I think integrating a total force concept into various schools that are cross discipline break the barriers to the curse of knowledge into the various disciplines is always a good thing. A common problem I see is that we have our cloistered communities where we know what we know and sometimes we think we know what the guy is doing that we support is doing. Getting a new perspective benefits the force as a multiplier in my opinion.
Now having said that you won't see me trying out for anything aggressive. I'm too old to be screamed at in the mil training environment.
Now having said that you won't see me trying out for anything aggressive. I'm too old to be screamed at in the mil training environment.
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I actually like it. I want whatever combat support that is coming to me to know what I am doing, how I do it, and how I am percieving it. The navigation skills are invaluable. And remember you don't have to be in a Ranger unit to be a Ranger. There used to be LRSD. And I for one want that warrior mentality in anyone fighting. I suppose traditionally 11B was exclusive to Ranger school, but we are in a different world now with unconventional warfare. Intel, techies, medical, and say EOD also need these advanced skills to properly integrate into more advanced units.
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What most people don't seem to realize is that Ranger School is, above all, a leadership course. The goal of the course is not to just to turn out Rangers but to turn out great leaders, regardless of MOS.
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