Posted on Jul 26, 2016
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I need to produce a product based on the REDS/DEDS of something similar to a US MLRS HE rocket, but I can't find the information I need, or I don't know enough to know what I should be looking for. the Yellow Book has led me to the DODIC and NEWQDLB for what I need, but I have no idea how to turn that into useful data. Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated.
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This type of thing is best not done online. There is an EOD footprint at Bragg, call ahead and bring all your findings to them and they should be able to help you out in a matter of minutes. I doubt they will be able to give you answers in absolutes, that's not generally how we work when dealing with technical theory. Best of luck.
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I see your point, but I've exhausted the local resources. I am not at Bragg or I would certainly schedule a consultation with EOD. I'm not even looking for answers, so much as the guidance to take what I have and make some useful numbers out of them. I do appreciate your help, though. Only Sith deal in absolutes.
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TSgt David L.
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I might be able to help but I'm not sure what exactly you need. Give me a better idea what you're looking for.
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MSgt John Carroll
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SGT (Join to see) - There are too many variables in your question. Just because an item has a 90 kg warhead doesn't mean it is 90 kg of explosives. What is the Net Explosive Weight (N.E.W.)? What is the composition of explosives? What is the TNT equivalent? What is the warhead design? What is the target? How crowded is the area? etc. Like I said, there are too many variables in your question.

Look up the HIMARS, it is another name for MLRS.
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MSgt John Carroll - Thank you for your reply. I was able to find the N.E.W. Quanitative Distance in Lbs (NEWQDLB) for the M31 MLRS in the Yellowbook, which is 482.204 - what I don't know is how to turn this into a usable number for casualty / damage producing radius. I also do not know if that is per rocket, or for the entirety of the rocket pack.

I apologize, the payload is 100kg, not the warhead. I am assuming the explosive is Composition B. The warhead is a notional cone-shaped device. The notional targets are standard masonry-type buildings and general equipment.

I'm just trying to get a general ballpark figure of the casualty radius; my napkin math (multiplying a known RED/DED distance based on payload mass) resulted in over 400m casualty radius, which I know can't be correct.

Thank you for asking these questions, hopefully this will help me get a little closer to the info I need.
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MSgt John Carroll
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AFMAN 91-201 (Explosive Safety) is unclass and covers K Factors and calculations for safe distances. I am on leave right now so I do not have access to EOD 60 series Publications. Those are obviously more accurate. Also, there are several models of MLRS. The dispenser/submunition model may be a better option for your scenario.
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TSgt David L.
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SGT (Join to see) - I'm retired so MSgt Carroll can hook you up better than I can. 100kg could be the total NEW but it could have a kg or two fuse components and a booster/burster or any number of components. So if you actually DO have a 100kg in the warhead then that is what you'll use.
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