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LTC Vindman retires, was he right or wrong? What about the second and third order effects?
Aside from the usually partisan (and superficial) comments regarding LTC (R) Vindman, is there a lesson to be learned here? We had a sitting US senator holding up promotion for 1000 senior officers to allow for his promotion. Whistleblowing. Polarizing politics and the politicalization of the military seems to be here for the duration. While the retired could easily just take pot shots from Ft. Living Room, here's my question. How can currently serving members truly remain apolitical? In a world where one callus post can end your career, use some judgment if you elect to weigh in. Was he right? Would you have done the same? Was he dead wrong?
Aside from the usually partisan (and superficial) comments regarding LTC (R) Vindman, is there a lesson to be learned here? We had a sitting US senator holding up promotion for 1000 senior officers to allow for his promotion. Whistleblowing. Polarizing politics and the politicalization of the military seems to be here for the duration. While the retired could easily just take pot shots from Ft. Living Room, here's my question. How can currently serving members truly remain apolitical? In a world where one callus post can end your career, use some judgment if you elect to weigh in. Was he right? Would you have done the same? Was he dead wrong?
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As military men and women, we should be focused on the mission. LTC,(R) V. should have stayed out of the Gossip Game.
He gets paid for life and will get a job as a political ANAList. The JCOS and Congress has been trying to get Pandora out of the box, it worked.
Since civil servants are No Longer, politicians are the ruling class,
He gets paid for life and will get a job as a political ANAList. The JCOS and Congress has been trying to get Pandora out of the box, it worked.
Since civil servants are No Longer, politicians are the ruling class,
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It is a shame that Partisans have successfully conflated corrolation with causation. Trump was well within his perview as CiC and as the director of Foriegn Policy to ask Ukraine to investigate admitted Quid Pro Quo from VP Biden regarding the firing of Ukrainian prosecutor. It was partisan of Vindman to label it as "election help" . That is the real issue because that is simply an opinion based on his biases. The MSM ran with that narrative, and Dems jumped on another chance to impeach and try to discredit a sitting POTUS because he knocked over the deep state apple cart and put out "mean tweets". I am more appaled that intelligent military veterans and active service members bought into the partisan Democrat fed BS. We all took that Oath and I feel it is more important to understand seperation of powers as well as actual powers within each branch. Democrats in Congress ignored those separations and behaved as schoolyard bullies against a POTUS that was not part of the ruling Cabal.
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He was a political soldier who utilized gaps in the armor to exploit things all commanders in chiefs do. If the current commander in chief was doing the same thing, would he come out and whistleblow? The LTC was a partisan operative and the military is better off without these types of biased officers.
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Anyone find it odd he’s connected to Ukraine? These people think they’re slick, and smart. Most of us are right through this BS! most Politicians and some Officers are so far disconnected from reality it’s disgusting. They don’t think we understand 4th and 5th generation warfare and that we (the U.S.) are using these strategies on our own people.
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On his retirement, he was right. With his feet unintentionally or intentionally planted in the political landscape, he can no longer effectively serve in his military capacity. On Biden & Bruisema I can understand his compulsion to defend what he saw as a necessary and fragile alliance with Ukraine. However, there may have been a more appropriate time to reveal his thoughts. It's a tough one.
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He was completely in the wrong. As an actively serving military member, he had zero justification to insert himself into politics. As a commissioned officer, he should have been honorable and resigned his commission. As to the ripples, I wonder how his actions have impacted the current conflict in Ukraine.
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First of all Vindman was a clear partisan political operative, he was squarely ups the ass of the State Dept. where his twisted idea of loyalty clearly lay. His warnings seem to mimic the lefts non-stop lies that have now been exposed. I see him as a kiss ass looking toward his hoped future at State and not any love for country.
I would like to add that this virus of politics is infecting the current leadership under Biden. We have two military CEO's more interested in political appearance over military readiness and telling a clearly addled leader in the White House that his choices are at least bad if not callous toward the safety of the men and women they lead.
I would like to add that this virus of politics is infecting the current leadership under Biden. We have two military CEO's more interested in political appearance over military readiness and telling a clearly addled leader in the White House that his choices are at least bad if not callous toward the safety of the men and women they lead.
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He was a conveniently placed pawn who allowed himself to be used to further the political goals of people who would have been just as happy to throw him under the bus had it benefited them. His pride allowed him to be deceived into stepping beyond the bounds of both his expertise and authority.
I think most of us heard things or received orders with which we did not agree. But most of us were smart enough, and humble enough to realize we might not have the whole picture. I know that even as a senior enlisted, I from time to time gave orders that had the men under me saying huh? Usually because I had information and/or context that did not have access to and sometimes, lacked need to know.
I think most of us heard things or received orders with which we did not agree. But most of us were smart enough, and humble enough to realize we might not have the whole picture. I know that even as a senior enlisted, I from time to time gave orders that had the men under me saying huh? Usually because I had information and/or context that did not have access to and sometimes, lacked need to know.
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Quite a few comments about "Loyalty to the Constitution vs. Loyalty to any President".
I've looked at the Constitution, and I still can't find where in the Constitution where it says LTCs set foreign policy.
I've looked at the Constitution, and I still can't find where in the Constitution where it says LTCs set foreign policy.
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