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LTC Vindman retires, was he right or wrong? What about the second and third order effects?
Aside from the usually partisan (and superficial) comments regarding LTC (R) Vindman, is there a lesson to be learned here? We had a sitting US senator holding up promotion for 1000 senior officers to allow for his promotion. Whistleblowing. Polarizing politics and the politicalization of the military seems to be here for the duration. While the retired could easily just take pot shots from Ft. Living Room, here's my question. How can currently serving members truly remain apolitical? In a world where one callus post can end your career, use some judgment if you elect to weigh in. Was he right? Would you have done the same? Was he dead wrong?
Aside from the usually partisan (and superficial) comments regarding LTC (R) Vindman, is there a lesson to be learned here? We had a sitting US senator holding up promotion for 1000 senior officers to allow for his promotion. Whistleblowing. Polarizing politics and the politicalization of the military seems to be here for the duration. While the retired could easily just take pot shots from Ft. Living Room, here's my question. How can currently serving members truly remain apolitical? In a world where one callus post can end your career, use some judgment if you elect to weigh in. Was he right? Would you have done the same? Was he dead wrong?
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What a scumbag! Forget all the politics and just consider the "woke" agenda he embraced to destroy our ability to be an effective fighting force. It's all on civilians and veterans now. Them bastards are overrunning our borders.
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As the retiring Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff today make clear, the oath taken is to the constitution, to defend it against enemies domestic and foreign, not any any man that is President, certainly not one who invited a mob to storm the Capitol we are a nation of laws not men and I stand with General Miley
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As a veteran and a historian what LtC Vindman did was similar to what George McClellan did during the civil war. McClellan personally did not like Lincoln and openly defied the president . McClellan was fired for lousy battlefield performance and actually lost to Lincoln in 1864 election . As a commissioned officer it's not your job to question the sitting president or try and vaunt yourself better than them . A soldier has to follow lawful orders regardless of rank or who gives them. I had officers who I didn't personally respected but I followed orders nonetheless
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They taught me this when I first joined up: If you work for a man, work FOR him. If you have a problem or criticism regarding him, either tell him or quit your job and then speak out against him all you want. Otherwise, you’re acting as a disloyal spy, a saboteur and a traitor.
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The LTC should have been court martialed and removed from his position because of his accusations of the President! He intended to follow the aims of one political party, and attempted to embarrass the President of the United States! This situation should have not been allowed under any circumstances! He should have reported his concerns to a higher authority who could have used the chain of command!
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Vindman is a politicaly driven shitbag. I'm curious to know what the left has on him.
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Ok PA. You are retired like Vindman, right?
It's pretty obvious you don't like the guy.
The difference between Vindman and you is you aint him. You're like the barracks laywer projecting a bunch of, "NOT IN MY ARMY" rhetoric. 7 orher wutnesses affirmed what Vindman said without the marmelade daddy stuff. You are not in his shoes. YOUR politics stand out in your verse.
I met the man. I told him I support him 100 and that he kinda sounded cheeky metioning family and should get a couple tailored suits to present himself next time. He's actually hilarious- in a dry grunt sort of way.
See something - say something- That's all he HAD to do. Vindman is Ukrainian American so there's that. But all this mess YOU are spewing is incredibly off center. Can imagine my boss scanning what you wrote - then asking ' dammit are you TRYING TO INFLUENCE YOUR MEDICs???'
I truly hope you are FULLY rerired, otherwise tou know what's up.
Codified laws, policies, procedures-for better or for worse, Vindman folliwed them.
It's pretty obvious you don't like the guy.
The difference between Vindman and you is you aint him. You're like the barracks laywer projecting a bunch of, "NOT IN MY ARMY" rhetoric. 7 orher wutnesses affirmed what Vindman said without the marmelade daddy stuff. You are not in his shoes. YOUR politics stand out in your verse.
I met the man. I told him I support him 100 and that he kinda sounded cheeky metioning family and should get a couple tailored suits to present himself next time. He's actually hilarious- in a dry grunt sort of way.
See something - say something- That's all he HAD to do. Vindman is Ukrainian American so there's that. But all this mess YOU are spewing is incredibly off center. Can imagine my boss scanning what you wrote - then asking ' dammit are you TRYING TO INFLUENCE YOUR MEDICs???'
I truly hope you are FULLY rerired, otherwise tou know what's up.
Codified laws, policies, procedures-for better or for worse, Vindman folliwed them.
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