Posted on Feb 25, 2018
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What is it like being an Army 19D Cav Scout?

Hey guys,
I am really interested in serving our country, as I always wanted to be a soldier since I was a little kid, not sure when will I be able to ,but my favorite MOS so far I think would be the 19D. I did read most of the topics about them, but my question is, do you guys think this is the closest MOS to being a special forces soldier basically? Like I can not enlist as any special forces soldier because of the requirements such as being a citizen at the time of enlisting, (yes I was not born here sadly). I would just like to do all those field tactical stuff without being in the general infantry, and do more than just your typical front-line soldier. I was told once by a retired 19D that closest thing I'll get to of being special forces is by becoming a cav scout. Is it worth it? How is the deployment like? Just want to hear all your opinions about the MOS. Thank you guys
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Not to downplay any MOS here, but being a 19D is nothing like being in Special Forces other than they are both considered combat arms (as is infantry, armor, and artillery). However, Special Operations as a whole (which includes Special Forces) is a completely different animal that operates off of specialized joint doctrine. Therefore, comparing it to anything else in the military is really not helpful to anyone just joining in my opinion. I know you stated that you don't want to be in the "general infantry," however, infantry is the basis for much of that "tactical stuff" you are referring to. I also believe its a lot easier to go into specialized units from the infantry and even possibly receive specialized training (ranger, airborne, etc.), because you are more likely to be exposed to it and/or people in it when you spend time in infantry units. However you can be any MOS and still go to those schools, but that obviously depends on where you end up and if your command allows it. Whereas, many infantry units require specialized schools such as airborne, ranger, pathfinder, and many others. So, knowing very little about you (other than what you stated), I would say if you want to maximize your chances of getting "specialized" training, you might want to re-consider going 11B-Infantry, and also try getting something like airborne school and/or RASP in your enlistment contract if you really want to go Special Ops. And, you can always still try out for SF later on down the line if you are eligible.
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MSG Dan Walther - Appreciate the info Dan. I was never an 18 series Soldier myself but served in several SOF units including 5th Group, and a Special Operations Detachment under SOCNORTH (in addition to working with Rangers, 3rd Group, and 7th Group units on deployments). That being said, I may know *a lot* of green beret's, but I don't know of any of them being former 19D's. In fact, most of the ones I know were former 11B's like myself, so that is likely the reason I have never heard this before. I am also a former 19K and served with 19D's in a cav unit once upon a time, so while everything you say may be 100% accurate that the two MOS's may compliment each other, I personally received very little exposure to SOF units and opportunities in that cav unit. In contrast, after going infantry, I cannot count how many times I saw SOF recruiters/opportunities and also served with Rangers and other SOF MOS's even before I joined an actual SOF unit myself (once I became a CI agent)... I guess everyone's experience is different though. Regardless, as we both know, any MOS can try out for SF so I guess it all depends what will interest Dominic more in the interim...
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SGM Bill Frazer
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Its like being pregnant- either you are or you are not. Rangers run close to SF, maybe- Scouts are not close!
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
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There is nothing close to "being a special forces soldier basically". Do not ever use that phrase in this company ever again. Scouts are scouts and Green Berets are Green Berets. They serve entirely different purposes.
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SP5 George Traylor
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CLOSER THAN ONE THINKS.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
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SP5 George Traylor no... The missions of scouts and that of SF groups are entirely different and the skill sets of SF team members are far greater than the average scout. Believe me, I wish I could claim such a distinction as I served as a scout but the two are not THAT kind of comparable.
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SP5 George Traylor
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SGT have mercy I was in 1975 1979 chose tanks and running with scouts was not my idea, but i fell into it. we had Helicopter flight training, I was already a pilot, Green Beret training in bad tolz, demolition, escape and evade, rappeling,Tow training and law training and how to imobilize a enemies equipment Fact is DELTA FORCE is a special outfit that was not available at that time just Green berats, Airborne and Airborne Rangers was the only ones I knew. DELTA FORCE and THE GREEN BERETs are a well trained and the best they are doing a great job.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
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SP5 George Traylor - None of that makes the comparison between scouts and SF easy. The skillsets are different, the training is VERY different, and the missions are nothing alike. We can think about this in terms of the current non-conventional setting or a conventional war from the past and neither would allow us to make a clear connection between the two categories to say "yes, these are similar jobs".
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