Posted on Jul 1, 2015
SPC Satcom Systems Operator/Maintainer
9.85K
29
23
2
2
0
99b6e7ae
How is it going today currently in the military everyone says leadership is the most important thing. But yet we see the lower enlisted who just joined the military seem to think that they actually have more range of experience and seniors. Not just didn't see you as an officer's but specialist as well who may have been and as long as the NCO's and the officers as well. And that raises the question where his leadership actually gone? At the end of the day the thought pops into my head why don't we put the leadership back on the NCO's bring back hard leadership physical correction not just the counseling statement? The next thing is why would we take away from the leaderships why take the power from the NCOs they are supposed to be our direct leadership are NCO support channel yet it seems like more and more every one wants to just push away from the NCO's and try and leave themselves. We need to put the power back to the NCOs and allow them to do correction more than just a counseling statement or push for article 15 bring back the physical punishments the smoke sessions or possibly reduce the smoke sessions to a reasonable amount. I came in 2010, when I first joined just getting to the new unit as a brand new private I was smoked as being the new guy but I saw quickly that it wasn't just smoking it was being taught a lesson to learn respect of leadership of me. Which raises one thing for me. Coming from Military family background respect is everything to me, yet more and more I see total lack of respect from privates two PFC's who seem to think they're entitled to more respect than the senior people who are already above them who have been in longer and have more military experience and knowledge. Why have we left the Military get to this level of the moralizing and absolutely breaking people just because it seems like the right thing to do? Who says this is the perfect idea of a perfect way to lead people? Because the last time that I checked the Military itself is about respecting your leadership and following orders that you're given. Yet when it comes to certain things why do we have people who can't pass the pt test or height and weight or the tape test? Yet they are put in a leadership position? I don't think it's correct to do that, just how are you going to lead someone when you can't even do the tasks that you expect them to do? But everyone has their own ideals of leadership maybe we should start compiling ideas and improving leadership that we already have and take that as an example of what we should possibly fix. Toxic leadership is one of those horrible things that we have in the military right now, there's no way around it some leaders are toxic to unit and that has to be fixed if we are to have a military and has a high morale and good work ethic. I'd like to see other ideas on how we can make this happen and possibly this be a reality. And someone will get enough to push it up to the highest leadership possible in the military. That is all I just love to see the ideas that people would have to improve what we have already started.

Edited: If anyone reads this wonders why the sentences aren't exactly perfect I used the voice recognition on my phone to do this because typing I wouldn't be able to type it because of my problem that writing I can't say what I would love to actually say for some reason.
Posted in these groups: Leadership abstract 007 Leadership11bcd87 FailureImprovements logo Improvements
Avatar feed
Responses: 12
PVT Robert Gresham
4
4
0
If these things truly bother you then take it upon yourself to change them !! Hold yourself to a higher standard. DO NOT let the perceived lackadaisical attitude in your unit change who you are as a Soldier. Your professionalism will drive others to follow and will set you apart from your peers. When you are the one in a leadership position then you can begin to hold your troops to a higher standard that you have already set for yourself.

You could also elect to change your MOS, to 11 series at the end of your current enlistment, or, if you really want a challenge, put in for Ranger, or other Special Operations Groups. In those specialties you will definitely see a big difference in professionalism, and the leadership holding troops to that higher standard that you feel is lacking in your current unit. It is a hard life, but it is totally rewarding. In other words, the choice lies with you !!
(4)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
SSgt Airman
3
3
0
So reading through everything I have seen a lot of good points made. I have seen a few problem children come and go. I myself have been in a position were I respected the rank but not necessarily the individual it happens from time to time. Almost all those who have "authority issues" should have this corrected at basic training and then the few who make it back to the unit (at least my unit any ways) get handled. They may have gotten any from smoking guys but there's always not so fun jobs that need done. Having said that it is essential for the NCO'S to take care of their members. I believe that every NCO should take it a step further and take care of any one who has been over looked or "left behind". I say that from a personal experience I had as a younger E-4 in the air force. During a hurricane relief mission I had been over looked by my NCOIC who happened to be an E-8 and was left manning a position 4 hrs after my guys had left in negative temps an Army E-6 took care of me and made sure I was good I will not forget him. He set a standard in my mind that I strive to uphold.
(3)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
CPT Military Police
3
3
0
Edited 9 y ago
You refer to being upset about a lack of respect. There is respect that is given automatically and there is respect that is earned. You respect the rank (hopefully) automatically but you respect the person because they earned your respect. If my actions are reflective of my words and you know I will have your back then perhaps I will earn your respect. There are many leaders who's primary concern is are they checking the right boxes in order to make the next rank, they're not concerned for the health, welfare, safety and morale of their troops because they have no connection to them other than when they stand in front of the formation, plt., or squad. These are the toxic leaders that cause good troops to decide to leave the Army, looking for something better. This happens enough and all you're left with are toxic leaders.
(3)
Comment
(0)
CMSgt Mark Schubert
CMSgt Mark Schubert
9 y
At a minimum, I always wanted to know their birthday and the spouses name of everyone I led - and when I had 155 people - it was difficult, but I tried - and this was before "Smart" phones. :-)
(1)
Reply
(0)
SPC Satcom Systems Operator/Maintainer
SPC (Join to see)
9 y
Mam,

Rank is something I've always respected and respect of a person is something I give slowly as well as trust respect is easier to gain from me than trust is because of how I am but I do trust a small group of people on here in my last unit and my current unit.
(0)
Reply
(0)
Avatar small

Join nearly 2 million former and current members of the US military, just like you.

close