Deep State Takedown - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

I think the deep state needs the light of day shined on it, brightly.

Years ago, early 60s, we had to rent a cheap apartment, it had cockroaches. When the lights came on they ran for cover, just like deep staters. BTW, my wife informed me if we didn’t move, I wouldn’t need as much space. We moved.

CWO3 (Join to see) - I think this is scary stuff, and certainly un-American. Having been in Washington so long, I know that "Washington" isn't the problem. Good, well-meaning people don't go there and automatically get a lobotomy. Most of them (certainly not all) are still well-meaning, but they think they will change a big bureaucracy and when they try, realize you actually do have to compromise and build alliances to get anything done. Thus, not much gets done. It's not supposed to function like a smooth-running business. It's supposed to be messy, and that's exactly the way it was designed by the framers of the Constitution--to keep any one person or group from taking over like we see in other countries. It could certainly run smoother and more efficiently, but it's not a business and the president isn't the CEO. I remember the time (fondly, I might add) when Ted Kennedy and Bob Dole could disagree vehemently in the Senate, then go play racquetball or have a drink and work something out where each got a little and gave a little. This: "the deep state is a useful boogeyman that allows him to merge several disparate political targets—real, exaggerated and imagined—into a single villain he can use to rally his supporters." This is all fear--fear of people and ideas different than ours, and I think it's what's caused this mess to begin with. Alex Jones is one of those people that has added to it, not helped it. Why anyone would listen or believe a thing he says is beyond me. "Drain the swamp" means different things to different people: it's always draining it of people you don't agree with. If more people had actually read the Constitution and knew how government is supposed to work, they would realize that our system of government is reflective of the Constitution, and it's supposed to be beyond any single administration in order to provide a smooth transition of power. To know that some people think they are to follow a President (any of them), regardless of the rule of law and our system, is what is scary (and un-American) to me.

SSG Diane R. - Having worked in DC so long makes it harder to believe. I know a lot of those people you are talking about--and the bureaucracy is just too big and people talk too much for it to be running things. On top of that, they could never keep the secret very long, especially with changes in administrations because the previous ones are out for at least 4 years. I think it's a term used by whoever it is that feels their ideas and values are being threatened. But like I said, perhaps I am naive.

The FBI appears to have kept quite a few secrets, even plotting against an elected president. So far, they haven't been very effective, for the reasons you state Susan Foster

SSG Diane R. - Some thought they plotted against Hillary (I never did). But I don't believe anyone except Fox News believes they plotted against Trump. So I guess only those who believe Fox News will believe it. I think by and large, they are as apolitical as they can be, considering they are made up of human beings. And I certainly hope they can keep secrets.

See: Confirmation Bias.

Remove the word intelligent and see if it makes sense. Trump said in the campaign how much he loves those "under-educated". It doesn't fit most of his base but for those it does their outspoken-ness is a force multiplier. The term deep state may have existed in some discussions, but for the most part became popular during the election, along with fake news. It's a convenient explanation of how a bunch of GS-10's and journalists introduced a false narrative and wield their clout in the inner-workings of government. This as opposed to the actual false narrative that occurs before our eyes on a daily basis.

CWO3 (Join to see) - I believe the phrase was "poorly educated", but point well taken.