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Donald Trump fired the United States Attorney General. We haven't seen a US President dismiss the United States Attorney General since Richard Nixon attempted to subvert the investigation of Illegal Presidential Executive Orders during the Saturday Night Massacre on October 20, 1973.
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Cpl Jeff N.
I think she works at the pleasure of the president. She refused to fulfill her role as acting AG and he fired her. That should surprise no one. There are no illegal laws being enforced. The laws that were on the books are still there. She refused to enforce the EO he signed which is well within his purview to issue. Play stupid games, get stupid prizes. She knew she was in an untenable position. She was essentially asking to be fired.
Guillermo Birmingham
Guillermo Birmingham
7 y
Cpl Jeff N. - Sorry you are wrong. There are certain industries that have the standards of independence. Government attorneys are not shills that simply get led by the nose and simply do what they are told to do by the executive. I'm a CPA and part of our annual requirement to maintain our license is ethics training. A key component of which is the subject of independence of thought and action in the performance of our duties. With respect to the DOJ ever ask yourself why the executive never inserts himself in DOJ cases? Simple...for the same reasons Commanders shy away from exercising undue command influence in court martial investigations and/or proceedings. It's the same as military members refusing to execute an illegal order.

With respect to this order being vetted by the DOJ, you must be living in an alternate reality. If it was vetted by the DOJ beforehand, it would not have came out the way it did. That is why government lawyers asked for additional time to be able to try to come up with a defense for what seems to be indefensible. That is why late yesterday afternoon the CBP had to clarify what individuals holding which visas were going to be admitted into the country. The issuance of the EO was his right, but that does not negate the right of citizens under the 1st Amendment of the Constitution to seek redress from a government who has a duty to prove its assertion that the travel ban is necessary for National Security purposes. We didn't elect a king...just a President.
MSgt James Mullis
MSgt James Mullis
7 y
By being fired she gained status among her social justice friends and she knew it. The whole thing was staged as a news/propaganda stunt.
Cpl Jeff N.
Cpl Jeff N.
7 y
Guillermo Birmingham - Nice try but your CPA training is not the same thing as the AG role and responsibility. The AG is there to make sure the President operates within the law, to advise and counsel etc. There is nothing illegal about this order, no one, even you, admits the president was well within his role as president to issue it.
No one is debating citizens ability to protest if they like. That is a red herring you are throwing out for some reason.

The AG has a responsibility to follow the wishes of the president (as his employee) unless she believes he is acting outside of the law. That was not the case here and even you admit that in your response, and I quote you "The issuance of the EO was his right". You are arguing in circles, lots of words, no logical conclusions. You don't like the EO, that is fair but to act like it was illegal is simply incorrect.
Guillermo Birmingham
Guillermo Birmingham
7 y
Cpl Jeff N. - The action of issuing an Executive Order is not illegal. The content obviously is as per 4 federal judges indicating it is so. The 7 day stay was provided to allow government attorneys an opportunity to try to figure out how to defend the order since they had trouble doing so over the weekend. First, because they were caught off guard by the action, which is counter to your assertion that it was vetted through the DOJ. 2nd, it's difficult to defend the indefensible order which denied entry to legal residents of the United States on the basis of national origin (or religion). This is a violation of the 1st and 5th Amendments.

Given that, and in line with what Ms Yates indicated to the current AG nominee during her confirmation hearing, she could not support such a flawed order that was rolled out as if the Keystone Cops were running the White House.

So if the order was so well written in a flawless way, then why did the DHS come out with a statement on late Monday evening indicating that those with green cards and certain visas would not fall under the mandates of the executive order? Why were the government attorneys 0-4 over the weekend, why have multiple states and cities filed suits against the order?

The issue of legality of the order has yet to be determined. That will happen in the courts not in the White House. We still have a 1st Amendment in this country which gives us the right to petition the actions taken and seek redress.

The AG is not a mindless government official. While he/she may serve at the pleasure of the president, their first allegiance has to be with the US Constitution.

Here is a link to an interaction between Senator Sessions and the former AG where she makes her case on independence as prompted by our current nominee: https://youtu.be/Nfcl0w0vvXo
GySgt Melissa Gravila
She, under Obama was enforcing illegal EOs, now that President Trump instructs her to follow the letter of the law, and being the Attorney General she had a problem with it...Hhhhmmm I don't have a problem with her hitting that cheese line. #draintheswamp
Capt Jeff S.
Capt Jeff S.
7 y
GySgt Melissa Gravila - LOL, that would be a wake up call to the rest of those trying to sabotage the nation's recovery from eight plus years of neglect!
GySgt Melissa Gravila
GySgt Melissa Gravila
7 y
Capt Jeff S. - I just call it like I see it- and as a Marine, I feel Mad Dog would see it the same way. She is an enemy of the Nation and should be treated as such IMO
Capt Jeff S.
Capt Jeff S.
7 y
GySgt Melissa Gravila - No argument there... and Semper Fi!
CPT Jack Durish
Damn, I wasn't sure about this guy but I could grow to love him.
SFC Senior Civil Engineer/Annuitant
SFC (Join to see)
7 y
I also wasn't a Trump supporter... but he sure as hell is making a believer out of me. Take these travel restrictions: he didn't telegraph his move like all the past administrations and blow it. He did a goof strike that affected a minimum amount of people and got the job done. Looks like we got president that has our back.
CSM William DeWolf
CSM William DeWolf
7 y
Exactly!
Capt Jeff S.
Capt Jeff S.
7 y
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