Posted on Nov 7, 2018
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Are Meal deduction just an excuse to profit off soldiers? My particular dfac has run out of food and to-go plates multiple times also they're not even open on the weekends most the year. I've lived at this base for 3 years now and all I see is the meal deduction go up every year and I don't see the reason for this because most soldiers would rather eat off base than this trash they feed us.
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SSG Robert Perrotto
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If you are a meal card holder, which is a regulation requirement for all single soldiers living in the barracks, then you are not having any meal deduction, as a meal is being provided by the government. If you actually do the math, and actual cost of dining out all 3 meals per day, then you would realize that you are making out like a bandit by having the defac - as for your dfac being closed on weekends, it is standard policy for the posts dfacs to rotate weekend chow between the tenant units, there is ALWAYS a dining facility open, there will always be a meal provided, the Government promises a meal will be provided, they do not promise convenience. get off your lazy ass and utilize it. I cannot believe that a soldier, who regularly gets his week ends off, is complaining about the cooks, who start their days at around 0300 to provide you breakfast, having a few weekends off as well. Entitlement at it's finest.

Honest Truth - I ate breakfast at the dfac my entire career, where else can you get an Ham and cheese omelette, hash browns, sausage or bacon, biscuit&gravy, 2 pancakes, and assorted fruits for $2,50.
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SGT Signal Support Systems Specialist
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honestly i wouldnt be mad about it if my meal deduction wasnt 25% higher than my bas. "400 dollars BAS provides food for the month" "we are gonna charge you 500 dollars for food this month whether or not you eat at our DFAC"
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SSG Robert Perrotto
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SGT (Join to see) - you are not charged anything - you have a meal card. And even IF, and that is a really big IF, you are charged $100 more a month for three meals a day during the week, that is pennies per meal.
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SGT Signal Support Systems Specialist
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i do not have a meal card. i was married while i was active
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SSG Robert Perrotto
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SGT (Join to see) - Are you active now? And if so, if you do not have a meal card, then why is your BAS being deducted from your pay? Are you in a field environment? Because the deduction is usually prorated for the time in the field. If it was for a training rotation for NTC or JRTC, then the deduction would be for the time allotted for training. Do some research SGT, then get with your CoC to figure this out. A whole lot of aggravation could have been avoided had you stated this when we first started discussing this.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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SPC (Join to see) so you draw BAS and they deduct for meals served to you or are you a meal card holder? If the desire was to "make a profit" the insidious Army illuminati are betting on the wrong horse. There is no S1/DOL vacation to the Caymans based on meal deductions that are directed by regulation. The meal rates are centrally directed by HQDA.

There is not a DFAC available on weekends?. I find that hard to believe. It may not be preferred or close but there is 7-365 DFAC coverage. Installations frequently serve brunch vice lunch and breakfast on the weekends and holidays. The installation and tenant units ensure coverage. I can't look it up for you as your profile doesn't have an information posted on it. It is usually posted at the DFAC, on line, and in unit areas.

To go plates: technically they are there for operational requirements, they have turned into a convenience item. The To go plates were not put there for people to take back to their fortress of solitude and muse about their place in the cosmos. The food is planned, prepared, and served in a manner that it is to be consumed at the DFAC.

Avenues you can take:
- quality/quantity of food served: go to the Dining Facility Advisory council meeting with specific instances. Stay away from "always" and "never" in your comments. Make recommendations to fix the problems. All menus are approved by a dietician and meet calorie requirements in the regulation. The menus and recipe cards are standardized Army wide. The raw ingredients are standardized, quality controlled and provided in one of the most regulated contracts I've seen by a prime vendor. If the issue is there the Food Service tech needs to get with Installation Subsistence and the KO to remedy. When DFACs run out of food, it's because the headcounts have become unpredictable. There is a production control aspect you just can't magic your way out of. How do you fix that? People need to consistently use the DFAC.

- go to other unit DFACs. See how they are. Provide constructive feedback through the Advisory Council to improve it based on best practices of others.

-observed food safety issue: professionally raise the issue with the DFAC Manager or lead cook (NCO). Undercooked, off temperature, cross contamination, etc.
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SGT Signal Support Systems Specialist
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how bout you stop charging me 500 dollars meal deductions on my 400 dollar BAS even if i dont eat at your DFAC
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SSG Robert Perrotto
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SGT (Join to see) - How about you do the Math - $400 per month for 3 meals a day, or $100 per month for 3 meals a day. And again, that is a really big "IF" the Government charges you $500 for money that is specifically for meals. I do not believe for a minute that the Army charges more per month to be a meal card holder then what they give for BAS.
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SSG Robert Perrotto - then you are actually stupid if you dont believe it
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SSG Robert Perrotto
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SGT (Join to see) - first, High Speed, the personal insult was not warranted, Second, like I said, if you have a meal card, and they are taking $100 dollars out of your pocket for meals, it breaks down to $1.11 per meal per month - try to have a full meal for a buck anywhere. Let's be real clear here, that $400 dollars for BAS is something you have never had in your hand, so the reality is, you pay $100 dollars a month for all your meals at the d-fac. Looks like the stupid one is the one complaining about having to pay $100 dollars a month for their meals, in which you do not have to cook, clean, and is prepared for you by others.
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MSgt Michael Smith
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It's not a meals deduction. Its that you eat for free at the DFAC, so you are ineligible for a tax-free basic allowance for sustenance. Fill out a missed meal voucher and stop crying. Welcome to being in the Army.
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SGT Signal Support Systems Specialist
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oh is this why my BAS is 400 and my meal deduction is 500
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It doesn't explain how when your in barraks its -$350 but once you move off base and get BAS it's +$350. Also "stop crying" and "welcome to the army" is toxic as hell, it's a tragedy that people that cynical are allowed to make it to positions of leadership that talk to their junior military members like that.
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