Posted on Nov 24, 2020
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Anyone here with 19th or 20th group? I have reached out to a 20th group recruiter, but figured i'd ask the trust Rally Pointers for some insight.

My time with active duty has come to an end sadly. I love being in the military, so I am looking to continue that service with the guard or reserves (Army or AF). I will be moving to FL, and in my searching I came across the idea of 20th SFG.

Does anyone or has anyone served with on of the NG SF units? Anything like being with AD SF? Although I am a medic now, i'm looking to do some intel support or something along those lines, but I would be fine continuing on as a medic. I would love to be a rigger and get MFF, but I refuse to drop down to E4 to do so.

How do they handle AORs for the NG groups? Are deployments frequent? What is drill like for these guys? Mostly just looking for any insight to what it is like.
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CSM Tony Blair
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The 20th use to be stationed at Selfridge, back in the early 90’s.
For almost a year I was training to be their OPFOR.
They did PT in their own, and their frill were over mutas 5 if I remember correctly. It’s a fast pace and high speed group. Now as to the training, while at bragg, I would see soldiers in civilian clothes with a 59 pound ruck and boots walking around, so knowing me I thought they were just showing out, so one day I asked one WTF!!
That’s when he told me he was getting ready for selection, and was breaking in his boots and getting use to carrying the weight.
Lastly the language, and again if I remember correctly if you failed that last part, even if you passed everything else, you failed the course.
I learned more in that one year, than I’ve ever learned in my military career.
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Actually I have, but not in a capacity that would be useful to you.

I was an augmented Intel Analyst at a location supporting an Alpha Team. The team I started with was NG, and then they rolled out, and was replaced by an AD team. The differences between them are night and day, and they crap talk each other behind their backs. Basically, the same differences seem to apply to "reserve" and "AD". AD seems to take their jobs more seriously.

Also, it is my observation that AD SF team members are all FIRST TIME GO's in regard to their SF training. NG guys, well, can get more than once chance. So that alone seemed to be a big driver for motivation and professionalism.

I think you're going to get a more committed and professional experience with AD, but that essentially applies to everything across the board SF or not.
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Thank you very much for the reply. That is certainly something I will keep in mind!
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1LT Peter Duston
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Many Many Many years ago so it's history not anything that you would find helpful but it got me reminiscing, especially considering the present crisis in Ukraine. I was a Reserve Russian Linguist attached to the 10th SF Group assigned to Ft. Devens, MA with their Reserve counterpart, the 11th SF Group. They had a classified Russian mission and did not have sufficient language support. I provided them survival Russian language classes, went on FTX's with them including one in the White Mountains of NH. The scenario was that the Russians (OPFOR) had invaded through the Canadian Maritime's, had advanced to the MA border where an MLR was established. 10th and 11th Groups "jumped" into the mountains to establish partisan groups to resist the occupying OPFOR. Me, being a "leg" had to drive into the "occupied" area and linked up with a team. I helped "hump" batteries, food and water up to a "col" between two mountains and helped run a radio relay site - no satellite in those days. SF relied on commo relay from one valley to the next over the mountains. OPFOR were troops from Ft. Drum. The locals even got into the scenario, recruited as partisans. I had climbed all the White Mountains so was a real asset to the SF as I knew alternative routes for us to avoid capture by OPFOR. FTX was two weeks.
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1LT Peter Duston
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BTW, the 11th Group (Reserve) mentioned above was made up of many (probably half) former active duty SF Soldiers and I couldn't see any real difference between performance.
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