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Who’s all excited for the new Army PT test?
I definitely believe this PT is more relevant to combat readiness.
I definitely believe this PT is more relevant to combat readiness.
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A combat physical readiness test is great for deployable and RFX units, but I think the current one sufficiently measures generally overall fitness and still should be used for TRADOC and non deployable units.
But, I can also see the problem with parity when comparing Soldiers for promotion of two different systems are used
But, I can also see the problem with parity when comparing Soldiers for promotion of two different systems are used
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CPT Zachary Brooks
The current PT test is severely lacking.
Doing "as many reps as you can in time" creates poor form and increases injury potential for sure. The situps have no real use as many of the muscles being used are used during the pushup and the run anyway, creating a body imbalance.
What I personally think would be ideal would be the following:
- Flexed arm pushup hold (arms at a 90 degree with upper arms parallel to the ground) for time.
- Flex arm pull up hold for time (arms at a 90 degree bend with upper arms parallel to the ground)
- Alternative "cardio" events including 1.5 mile run, bike, swim, or elliptical. Some people are just not good at running, so we should have other aspects to prove this. Having a two mile run only determines if you are good at running, not if you have good cardiovascular strength.
The holds would allow the proper muscles to be targeted and trained, pushups would be the chest, core and triceps and the pull ups would work the lats, core, and biceps primarily. The hold would be ideal as it would stop the flopping around in poor form that leads to so many injuries while testing the body's ability to operate those muscles at a strongly utilized state.
I would shorten the run to 1.5 miles (and add the other events) as I feel it is more of a skillful distance than 2 miles. 1 mile tends to be almost a sprint, while 2 tends to get into the distance run category (at that point, why not 3?). 1.5 forces you to be aware of your speed vs endurance in order to make the distance in a set amount of time.
SGT (Join to see) 1LT Kevin Chapman
Doing "as many reps as you can in time" creates poor form and increases injury potential for sure. The situps have no real use as many of the muscles being used are used during the pushup and the run anyway, creating a body imbalance.
What I personally think would be ideal would be the following:
- Flexed arm pushup hold (arms at a 90 degree with upper arms parallel to the ground) for time.
- Flex arm pull up hold for time (arms at a 90 degree bend with upper arms parallel to the ground)
- Alternative "cardio" events including 1.5 mile run, bike, swim, or elliptical. Some people are just not good at running, so we should have other aspects to prove this. Having a two mile run only determines if you are good at running, not if you have good cardiovascular strength.
The holds would allow the proper muscles to be targeted and trained, pushups would be the chest, core and triceps and the pull ups would work the lats, core, and biceps primarily. The hold would be ideal as it would stop the flopping around in poor form that leads to so many injuries while testing the body's ability to operate those muscles at a strongly utilized state.
I would shorten the run to 1.5 miles (and add the other events) as I feel it is more of a skillful distance than 2 miles. 1 mile tends to be almost a sprint, while 2 tends to get into the distance run category (at that point, why not 3?). 1.5 forces you to be aware of your speed vs endurance in order to make the distance in a set amount of time.
SGT (Join to see) 1LT Kevin Chapman
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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2017/08/15/the-army-is-testing-a-new-combat-fitness-test/
Here is an article talking about it.
I don't see the point of the leg tuck and I feel that it will fit more into the "quick for more reps" type of exercises that have been leading to injuries. The deadlift I hope is being done with a shrug bar as that would help to alleviate those "lifting with their back" more so than a straight bar would be.
The T pushup looks like it should slow down much of the issues with the pushup in which it was momentum based more so than fitness based, but we will still see the joints being beaten up at the top and bottom of the motion.
The best part of this test is the removal of the sit-up!
Here is an article talking about it.
I don't see the point of the leg tuck and I feel that it will fit more into the "quick for more reps" type of exercises that have been leading to injuries. The deadlift I hope is being done with a shrug bar as that would help to alleviate those "lifting with their back" more so than a straight bar would be.
The T pushup looks like it should slow down much of the issues with the pushup in which it was momentum based more so than fitness based, but we will still see the joints being beaten up at the top and bottom of the motion.
The best part of this test is the removal of the sit-up!
The Army is testing a new combat fitness test
The new six-event test can better measure a soldier’s readiness, and it could be mandatory as soon as next summer.
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I'm actually kind of excited. I think there's a chance it'll be easier to prepare for than the APFT
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