Posted on Jan 22, 2018
Is there an actual regulation on the wear of the black fleece cap in PT indoors?
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The black fleece cap is not part of the physical fitness components and is not listed as headgear according to ar670-1.
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Per DA Pam 670-1, the fleece cap is an authorized accessory (and AR 670-1, para. 10-2, “note” directs to the DA Pam for accessories). The actual wear of the fleece cap is a WABC, so check the local guidance.
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Here is your answer, IAW at DA PAM 670-1 PARA 18-12 c "The fleece cap is worn with the physical fitness uniform or the combat uniform, as prescribed by the commander." Your installation command should have a policy letter out regarding the wear of these items. We in Alaska have even further guidance having the Balaclava as well. If you do not have specific guidance covering this at your unit, you have to look at this in a manner fitting this accessory. You are correct in stating that it is not listed as headgear, rather listed as an Accessory. But the Beret is also listed as an Accessory and then the regulation goes on to state "..the standard headgear worn with the Army service uniform" So we have to apply some common sense and correlate that maybe, just maybe, the Fleece cap is headgear though not explicitly stated. But when in doubt grab your 1SG and go ask your Company Commander how he prescribes the usage of that "Accessory" and tell him CPT (P) Daily sent ya! But I would recommend you keep it low and protect the WOLF pack.
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Not sure what the common sense is if regulations supports SM doing the right thing.
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MAJ Christopher Daily
CW3 (Join to see) - In DA PAM670-1 paragraph 4-10 Headgear it lists a. Patrol cap, b. Beret, c. Fleece cap, d. Sun (boonie) hat. The Fleece cap is headgear. AR 670-1 3–7 gives clear guidance about headgear. There is your reference.
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CPT you're so making sense, but I feel like the next comment made will be that Chapter 4 belongs to Combat Uniform Ensemble, not the PT uniform. You put it best when you wrote, "So we have to apply some common sense and correlate that maybe, just maybe, the Fleece cap is headgear though not explicitly stated."
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I feel it may fall under this because the fleece cap is considered headgear:
AR 670-1 3–7. Required or prohibited wearing of the Army uniform
l. Soldiers will wear headgear with the Army uniform, except under the following circumstances:
(2) Soldiers will not wear headgear indoors, unless under arms in an official capacity, or when directed by the commander, such as for indoor ceremonial activities.
This can be found on page 16
AR 670-1 3–7. Required or prohibited wearing of the Army uniform
l. Soldiers will wear headgear with the Army uniform, except under the following circumstances:
(2) Soldiers will not wear headgear indoors, unless under arms in an official capacity, or when directed by the commander, such as for indoor ceremonial activities.
This can be found on page 16
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Sorry but fleece cap is not consider headgear according to the physical fitness uniform.
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SFC (Join to see)
you got me. but at the end of the day, for me, the common sense factor is going to say it's head gear over an accessory. because i can't think of another place to wear it. these two regulations aren't foolproof or necessarily user friendly.
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We don’t apply common sense to regulations. There are many things that we face that we cannot apply common sense to in the military that’s we have regulations.
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